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To: Mario :-) who wrote (68463)	9/3/2007 11:43:05 AM
From: ballsschweaty	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 116555

Kidney stones are caused by eating too much protein and not drinking enough water. bmj.com If you like to eat lots of steaks and wash it down with lots of booze, you should expect to get lots of kidney stones. Is it the doctor's fault that you get kidney stones? Why don't you change your diet and lifestyle habits so you don't kidney stones? Isn't that a lot easier than having to rely on pain meds and cat scans? Try taking just one iota of responsibility for your own health. Why is it the public's responsibility to pay for your unhealthy dietary habits?

To: Mario :-) who wrote (68463)	9/3/2007 2:24:58 PM
From: Elroy Jetson	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116555

The drug you were given in Europe for treating the pain of kidney stones was most likely Diclofenac. It is often combined with Demeral. This NSAID, is not approved in the US in injectable or suppository form (only tablets and more recently gels and patches). It relieves both the pain and inflammation associated with kidney stones. The closest NSAID approved in the US as an IV drug is Indocin. Aspirin in an NSAID, as are Advil and Aleve, but needless to say, they don't have the same effect as . Powerful NSAIDs like Diclofenac can greatly reduce blood clotting, which can be fatal in some situations. The FDA is designed to protect against drugs which might do things like this. There is a significant problem with the FDA. They are charged with avoiding harm from drugs, but they are not charged with avoiding the harm of not having lifesaving or beneficial drugs available. Diclofenac can greatly reduce the pain of kidney stones and reduce some of the damage they cause. In not approving Diclofenac, the FDA creates great harm - but this is not a harm caused by a drug (but the harm caused by the lack of a drug) which the FDA is not chartered to consider. People with HIV and several cancers banded together and forced the FDA to temporarily approve various drugs outside of their guidelines, logically pointing out that without these drugs we will be dead, so how are you protecting us? But this "accelerated approval" changed back to business as usual under the Bush administration. This really needs to change, but most Americans demand the FDA protect them from drugs - so I don't think it will change soon. May I suggest you obtain a personal supply of Diclofenac suppositories from Europe for any future kidney stones you may have. Either that or find a Doctor who is willing to treat you with IV Indocin with Demeral. The culture of Doctors in the US are also part of the problem. Although Doctors in the US are entitled to use any method available which they believe will benefit their patient, as in Europe, most follow peer pressure and believe that everything which is not mandatory is prohibited. .