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To: quehubo who wrote (40943)	9/3/2007 12:56:49 PM
From: JohnM	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541477

You've conflated two separate issues here. One is sexuality, the other is pedophilia. Are you opposed to homosexuality or pedophilia? I assume you are quite well aware there are a great many long term relationships between folk of the same gender. And that you are also aware that heterosexuals are as capable of pedophilia as homosexuals I would guess, but don't know, that most of the pedophilia complaints concern heterosexuals.

To: quehubo who wrote (40943)	9/3/2007 3:05:22 PM
From: epicure	Respond to of 541477

Sex with children is very different- and has nothing to do with homosexuality, and I also covered it in my post. Homosexuality is not (imo) a choice- the only choice is whether homosexuals are allowed to express themselves without societal consequences, or not. Pedophilia, a completely different orientation, involves one party unable to form an adult desire for sexual contact, and thus pedophilia of all kinds is anathema to me- including pederasty. I think the ability to form an adult intent is crucial when one looks at these issues. I have the same problem with adults who want to exploit the retarded sexually.

To: quehubo who wrote (40943)	9/3/2007 3:23:05 PM
From: KonKilo	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541477

What happens if his choice is a little boy who may wander into the bathroom unescorted? Or perhaps his lifestyle choice becomes little girls? It seems odd to me to see how many times the question of homosexuality morphs into a question about pedophilia, which is something else entirely. Or bestiality, which is WAY off topic. Why do you think this is?

To: quehubo who wrote (40943)	9/3/2007 4:54:53 PM
From: Steve Lokness	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 541477

guehubo; This lifestyle choices seem to lead to a slippery slope to self destruction once you stray from long term monogamous relationships. I agree and don't think the Craig story is about homosexual relationships at all. He is just a sick pervert in my mind out to get his jollies as the opportunities came up. Our lives are a series of choices that we make. Those who make the right choices live a self fullfilling life. We are in deep trouble as a society if we are to the point that reckless random sex in public places by public officials is accepted! Not even a close call.............I will be happy to vote for any republican should this be the position of democrats or liberals. steve

To: quehubo who wrote (40943)	9/4/2007 2:47:21 PM
From: Cogito	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541477

>>Here is the crux of the argument. Is homosexuality a choice? Maybe Craig is just a deviant out experimenting in the men's room or various other places. What happens if his choice is a little boy who may wander into the bathroom unescorted? Or perhaps his lifestyle choice becomes little girls? This lifestyle choices seem to lead to a slippery slope to self destruction once you stray from long term monogamous relationships.<< Quehebo - You're conflating homosexuality and pedophila. The fact that a man seeks casual sex with other men doesn't mean that eventually he will start preying on little boys. And I find it hard to understand how it would lead to his abusing little girls. For some reason you seem to think long-term monogamous relationships are the answer. So consider this: In some societies, and even in ours sometimes, it has been considered OK for older men to marry very young girls. Girls have been brides at fourteen and even younger. So those are long term monogamous relationships. Is it acceptable for a thirty year old man to have sex with a fourteen year old girl if they are involved in a long-term monogamous relationship? And of course there are gay men (and women) who are involved in long term monogamous relationships. Any objection? - Allen