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To: c.hinton who wrote (240803)	9/3/2007 5:00:25 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Pretty much so in New Zealand: < do you think child torture and murder only started with welfare? > Not all of it of course. But it has been accelerated into daily life. In the old days, before welfare, people who had no interest in children could easily find adoptive people to take them off their hands and absolve them of their responsibilities. These days, the children are a money machine. So of course they like to have them. If you consider the children who have been tortured and killed in New Zealand, you will look hard to find some not in the welfare system. act.org.nz You go on about responsibility. The harm of the welfare state is that responsibility has been removed from the welfare recipients. They don't have to behave in any way other than sufficiently to get their cash. Having babies is a good way to get more cash. There is no need to do well by those babies to get the cash. Welfare is the opposite of responsibility. Mqurice