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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (240862)9/4/2007 4:08:49 AM
From: Elroy  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Nothing is stopping Hamas from making that declaration right now - nothing but their own ideology.

I'm not talking about them acting on their own, I'm asking why the international community isn't pushing that goal.

What the international community is actually asking of them is much less, merely to uphold the previously signed agreements which recognize Israel, and they won't even do that, though it's costing them millions.

Well, the previously signed agreements all maintain the idea of one united Palestinian nation, presumably led by Abbas (and not by Hamas). What I'm saying is that the international community should push Hamas-Gaza toward their own self rule of their own nation inside Gaza. Them kicking out Fatah is sort of a first step in that process. What I'm surprised about is that the reaction of the "friends of Israel" has been to try to bolster the One Pal State idea, rather than divide the Pal people and co-opt them, piece by piece, into accepting Israel. Gaza should be a first step in that process.

If they declared Gazastan inside Gaza, and in so doing implicitly recognized the borders of Israel, they could end the blockade and get billions of foreign investment instantly.

They don't do it because they don't want to do it. How many weird loops and convolutions do you have to go through to avoid this obvious answer?


Come on, "They don't want to do it" is too simple an argument. Receiving massive foreign investment, ruling your own country and being the founder of a nation sounds too tempting to just dismiss with "they don't want to". You think the leaders of Hamas are going to not even consider the chance to change their status from the world's most pathetic refugee people to founders (and rulers) of a new nation (which then received massive outside aid)? Not even consider it? And my question is more about why aren't Israel and the US promoting that path (which sounds pretty good from my viewpoint) rather than opposing it and promoting the one Pal state solution which is 10x more challenging to implement?

Can you actually imagine a Palestinian Airline flight from Gaza to the West Bank in the next 50-100 years? No way!