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To: Steve Lokness who wrote (41009)9/4/2007 6:27:25 PM
From: epicure  Respond to of 541461
 
"doesn't mean that people enjoying reckless sex won't indeed prey on children at some point - some do some don't"

Adults who enjoy reckless sex are no more pedophiles than homosexuals are. You are conflating issues. I'm certainly not defending it- I just don't care very much about policing it- especially when it isn't really "public". People who go for it in elevators or closed public restroom stalls are in a semi public situation, really. I just have a hard time seeing that as so alarming I think it's as important as confronting violent crime. You seem to have confused me with advocacy, or defense. I simply don't see the huge harm here.



To: Steve Lokness who wrote (41009)9/4/2007 10:54:56 PM
From: Cogito  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 541461
 
>>I think it is you and Iktomi and others who are confusing an issue of privacy and what you do in your own bedroom - with damaging and scary behavior by perverts doing things in public places that just cannot be allowed by any society that cares about kids and decency. The defense of beastiality and neclophilia and random perverts having homosexual sex in public restrooms just leaves me shaking my head. ........While what Craig did was not pedophilia, your argument that it isn't, doesn't mean that people enjoying reckless sex won't indeed prey on children at some point - some do some don't. That Craig claimed to not be homosexual - while seemingly exploring reckless sex, suggest the man is sick and needs help. You give Craig some kind of pass because he is a senator that you would never give to a creep in a public bathroom who would make you shiver in disgust had you walked in on him performing a homosexual act. There is right and wrong here and it has NOTHING to do with homosexuality.<<

Steve -

Neither I nor Iktomi have given Craig a pass. Nor has anyone on this thread, that I have seen, defended bestiality, necrophilia, or "random perverts having homosexual sex in public restrooms". All I have said myself is that having casual sex is not the same as pedophilia, and that there is no reason to believe it leads to pedophilia.

The statement that "some do and some don't" eventually end up preying on children applies just as well to people who do not engage in random sex in public bathrooms. It applies to married people, and to unmarried people. It applies so generally, in fact, as to be meaningless when used as you have done.

- Allen