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Politics : A US National Health Care System? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: TimF who wrote (2008)9/4/2007 7:20:45 PM
From: John Koligman  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 42652
 
Yeah, ehealthinsurance isn't the sum total, but believe me I scrounged around and it really IS the sum total. Yeah, it's a New York State thing, throw in a couple more states the size of NYS with the same 'thing' and you might start to see why this is such an issue... No, paying a $4500 deductible doesn't do you in, but a one million cap might if you get sick enough or have multiple illnesses in the family... How do you explain 20% of people with cancer AND insurance going bust? I've read that in the recent past one of the MAJOR causes of bankruptcy has been serious illness. You sound like Shrub when he says 'you can get healthcare in this country, just go to the emergency room'...



To: TimF who wrote (2008)9/4/2007 8:45:23 PM
From: Joe NYC  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 42652
 
Tim,

Out of the goodness of their hearts, New York State politicians banned a practice where insurance company would charge you based on your risk analysis. For example, young adults are the lowest rist, since their medical expenses are the smallest. Old people nearing retirement are the most expensive for insurance companies.

So New York State banned companies from giving inexpensive rates to healthy young. So the companies started charging young adults much higher rates, something like the average. Then, of course, the healhy young people dropped their insurance (since most people pay at least portion of the insurance), and the insurance companies ended up with much older and sicker pool of people.

Also, I don't know all the details, but there was some talk about forcing insurance companies to pay for very expensive procedures, making the only option for a person to buy the Cadillac version of health insurance while Chevy level products is what people like to buy the most (since that's all most people can afford).

Add super ambulance chaser friendly and union friendly environment, and that's what you get.

The end result of the good heart of our politicians is that health insurance for a family is somewhere between $10,000 and $20,000 per year, which is about as much or more the lowest income earners earn.

Joe