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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (14358)	9/6/2007 7:25:23 PM
From: longnshort	Respond to of 224737

so how will she pay for it ??

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (14358)	9/6/2007 7:25:29 PM
From: tonto	Respond to of 224737

Politicians always make hollow promises...

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (14358)	9/6/2007 8:21:37 PM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224737

She wants to bankrupt the country through vastly higher taxes instead.

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (14358)	9/6/2007 8:27:17 PM
From: Ann Corrigan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224737

US ready for a woman president, but Hillary? Toby Harden, The Telegraph 05/09/2007 Worldstage: Washington For much of her life, she was a political appendage of her husband, while resolutely using her maiden name. Reluctantly, she adopted Bill Clinton's surname even as she was humiliated by his sexual incontinence. After mocking women who stood by their man, she did exactly that. Over the Labour Day weekend - the traditional start of the presidential campaign, but this time virtually a mid-point marker - she was once again at her husband's side, while simultaneously casting herself as the candidate of change and a new era in Washington. But, in an act of political triangulation of which the former president is doubtless proud, she is now neither Rodham, nor Clinton, but just plain "Hillary". The contradictions that ran through her career as First Lady in Arkansas and the White House remain, but are glossed over in a way that seems at once cynical and effortless. She has found a Third Way. Despite predictions that she was too polarising a figure ever to be elected even to Congress, she appears to be squaring the circle. Her main rival, Barack Obama, has powerful star appeal and fund-raising prowess, but is struggling to keep up in the polls. Never conceding an inch, Mrs Clinton declares herself a better friend to the African-American community than the man who would be America's first black president. She can bring about fundamental "change" - a word she used 26 times in a 30-minute speech in Iowa on Monday - despite having been part of the Washington establishment for 15 years. Only a politician with the chutzpah of a Clinton would dare to attempt such a conjuring trick, never mind look like being able to pull it off. The New York senator refers to herself breaking through "the hardest of glass ceilings" to become America's first woman president, but urges voters not to choose her because of her sex. Barbs at women who "stay home and bake cookies" have been jettisoned in favour of repeated references to being a mother. Gone are the trademark grey pant-suits. At presidential debates, she is resplendent in coral, leaving the dark suits to her seven male rivals. When the Washington Post ran an article noting her change in style and highlighting an outfit that revealed her cleavage, the Hillary campaign denounced the paper's supposed sexism and took the opportunity to raise money on the back of the slight. All this is a far cry from 1984, when Walter Mondale named Geraldine Ferraro as his running mate and feminists celebrated history in the making. Soon their hopes turned to dust, as the first presidential ticket to include a woman limped towards a landslide defeat at the hands of Ronald Reagan. Along the way, Ferraro endured a litany of indignities. A veteran Mississippi politician addressed her as "young lady" and asked: "Can you bake a blueberry muffin?" The comedian Johnny Carson joked that Mrs Mondale might get peeved if his husband stayed late in the Oval Office having private sessions with the Vice-President. Ferraro later wrote a bitter memoir accusing anti-abortionists, Republicans, Rupert Murdoch, Italian-Americans and even Mondale aides of creating a tide of sexism that sank her. But in reality many of the mistakes were made by Ferraro herself, including posing in an apron in a book called the Mondale Family Cookbook. Mrs Clinton is a much better and more battle-tested politician. While Ferraro, an obscure congresswoman, was defined by her sex, Mrs Clinton is viewed as a politician first and woman second. Just as Kennedy rose above being a Irish Roman Catholic, she has become more than just the female candidate. "Sometimes the pioneering individual has to go against type," notes Michael Barone, editor of the Almanac of American Politics. "Kennedy had a persona more like that of a British lord than some red-haired fighting Irishman." Realising this, the formidably disciplined Mrs Clinton has positioned herself as a foreign policy hawk in her party, risking the wrath of the Left rather than appear weak. The nagging fear for Democrats is that Hillary will win the nomination, but lose the presidential election to a Republican candidate with broad appeal, such as Rudy Giuliani. After 28 years of a Bush or a Clinton in the White House, the yearning for something new is palpable. Some 55 per cent of swing voters are women and the news that the hit television show 24 will soon have a woman president, portrayed by a lesbian actress, barely made a stir. There is little doubt Americans are ready to have a female running the White House. Whether they are prepared to sign up to another Clinton for four more years is a different question entirely.<

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (14358)	9/6/2007 10:32:32 PM
From: jim-thompson	Respond to of 224737

DICK MORRIS' ANALYSIS OF BILL CLINTON'S BIO ABOUT HILLARY----- BILL CLINTON LEAVES TRUTH OUT OF HILLARY'S BIOGRAPHY See Bill's "commercial" at: www.hillaryclinton.com <http://www.hillaryclinton.com/> Check out Bill Clinton's syrupy five minute ad for Hillary. He introduces the commercial by saying that he wants to share some things we may not know about Hillary's background. His version of her biography is about as reliable as if it appeared in Pravda! So, since I was there for most of their presidency and know them better than just about anyone, I wanted to make a few corrections; Bill says: Hillary never wanted to run for public office, but she did want to work at public service. The facts are: When Clinton was considering not running for another term as Governor of Arkansas in 1990, Hillary said she would run if he didn't. She and Bill even had me take two surveys to assess her chances of winning. The conclusion was that she couldn't win because people would just see her as a seat warmer for when Bill came back licking his wounds after losing for president. So she didn't run. Bill did and won. But there is no question she had her eye on public office, as opposed to service, long ago. Bill says: In law school Hillary worked on legal services for the poor. The facts are: Hillary's main extra-curricular activity in law school was helping the Black Panthers, on trial in Connecticut for torturing and killing a federal agent. She went to court every day as part of a law student monitoring committee trying to spot civil rights violations and develop grounds for appeal. Bill says: Hillary spent a year after graduation working on a children's rights project for poor kids. The facts are: Hillary interned with Bob Truehaft, the head of the California Communist Party. She met Bob when he represented the Panthers and traveled all the way to San Francisco to take an internship with him. Bill says: Hillary could have written her own job ticket, but she turned down all the lucrative job offers. The facts are: She flunked the DC bar exam and only passed the Arkansas bar. She had no job offers in Arkansas and only got hired by the University of Arkansas Law School at Fayetteville because Bill was already teaching there. She only joined the prestigious Rose Law Firm after Bill became Attorney General and made partner only after he was elected governor. Bill says: President Carter appointed Hillary to the Legal Services Board of Directors and she became its chairman. The facts are: The appointment was in exchange for Bill's support for Carter in his 1980 primary against Ted Kennedy. Hillary became chairman in a coup in which she won a majority away from Carter's choice to be chairman. Bill says: She served on the board of the Arkansas Children's Hospital. The facts are: Yes she did. But her main board activity, not mentioned by Bill, was to sit on the Wal-mart board of directors, for a substantial fee. She was silent about their labor and health care practices. Bill says: Hillary didn't succeed at getting health care for all Americans in 1994 but she kept working at it and helped to create the Children's Health Insurance Program (CHIP) that provides five million children with health insurance. The facts are: Hillary had nothing to do with creating CHIP. It was included in the budget deal between Clinton and Republican Majority Leader Senator Trent Lott. I helped to negotiate the deal. The money came half from the budget deal and half from the Attorney Generals' tobacco settlement. Hillary had nothing to do with either source of funds. Bill says: Hillary was the face of America all over the world. The facts are: Her visits were part of a program to get her out of town so that Bill would not appear weak by feeding stories that Hillary was running the White House. Her visits abroad were entirely touristic and symbolic and there was no substantive diplomacy on any of them. Bill says: Hillary was an excellent Senator who kept fighting for children's and women's issues. The facts are: Other than totally meaningless legislation like changing the names on courthouses and post offices, she has passed only four substantive pieces of legislation. One set up a national park in Puerto Rico. A second provided respite care for family members helping their relatives through Alzheimer's or other conditions. And two were routine bills to aid 9-11 victims and responders which were sponsored by the entire NY delegation. Here is what bothers me more than anything else about Hillary Clinton. She has done everything possible to weaken the President and our country (that's you and me!) when it comes to the war on terror. 1. She wants to close GITMO & move the combatants to the USA where they would have access to our legal system. 2. She wants to eliminate the monitoring of suspected Al Qeada phone calls to/from the USA. 3. She wants to grant constitutional rights to enemy combatants captured on the battlefield. 4. She wants to eliminate the monitoring of money transfers between suspected Al Qeada cells & supporters in the USA. 5. She wants to eliminate the type of interrogation tactics used by the military & CIA where coercion might be used when questioning known terrorists even though such tactics might save American lives. I can't think of a single bill Hillary has introduced or a single comment she has made that would tend to strengthen our country in the War on Terror. But, I can think of a lot of comments she has made that weakens our country & makes it a more dangerous situation for all of us........She goes hand in hand with the ACLU on far too many issues where common sense is abandoned. She is a disaster for all Americans.