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To: dougSF30 who wrote (239918)	9/6/2007 8:48:03 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	Respond to of 275872

Great find, Doug! The tone I get from the post confirms what I've been suspecting all along. Barcelona may not be enough to leapfrog Intel. I'm guessing that AMD will be forced to play up performance/watt and performance/$$$. And that would be far from the grand slam that AMD needs in order to survive. Tenchusatsu

To: dougSF30 who wrote (239918)	9/6/2007 11:48:34 PM
From: Petz	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 275872

I'm encouraged by these comments, [Barcelona clock for clock is] just a tad faster in some areas and in others it is 20%+ (heavy emphasis on "plus" until Monday, ) faster... He also mentions other positives like better than expected latency and bandwidth. Both of these are exactly what is needed to actually get 2x the performance from having two 128-bit SSE engines, unlike Intel which gets max 20-30% from that. Finally, My personal opinion is that if AMD had hit their original launch targets and speeds, the server market would be incredibly competitive at this point with Tigerton being a much needed response to Barcelona. "Original launch targets and speeds" == 2.6 GHz, the number AMD used in its earlier "simulations." Well, 2.6 GHz is not far away, since we have already seen 3 GHz at less than 120 watts. 2.93 GHz Tigerton is 130 watts, by the way. Petz