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To: bearjones who wrote (6314)	9/7/2007 10:59:23 AM
From: maxncompany	Respond to of 50700

"Or as one policy maker admits: “Nobody had imagined a scenario where the money markets froze up like this. It just wasn’t in the stress testing models.”" Again, the damn models. The market doesn't give a hoot about models, and in fact, takes delight in punishing those who think their model is brilliant, even infallible.

To: bearjones who wrote (6314)	9/8/2007 1:19:31 AM
From: Bill on the Hill	Respond to of 50700

There are so many problems in the markets. Our government is skewing numbers and todays jobless numbers have been sheared with so many dropping off the unemployment rolls. Skewing the numbers. Where is the next skew? Perhaps it is the DOW. They take it to 15k. This in order to short China when the market falls. and Japan. and Europe. Call it balancing the books. Trap them so deep into your pocket that instead of bankrupting yourself, you bankrupt them. Own it all. Worldwide. You have created such a huge infrastructure that the owners of the factories are in your pockets and governments are powerless to stop them from doing your bidding. Remember. Their wealth is isolated to a very few and the general population will revolt if they do not share it. They are still communist after all. Add communication within their society that was previously controlled and where they could be in twenty years. They will opt for our form of government at that point. A maytag in every kitchen. CAPITALISM! Meanwhile, it costs apple about $145 to $160 to build the IPOD. Apple pays the factory in china about $8 to put it together. The rest is costs in materials from India, Taiwan and a few other countries. $8 and thats it. to build a factory and staff it. $8.00 Who loaned em' the money to build it? Probably apple. All the profit stays in the U.S. of A. Where does the money come from to build the world? U.S. of A. And U.S. of A means, "them that have it". Goldman Sachs and the top 500 companies. And a few assorted others spread out through the world market. I do not think we can outguess the big money men. They have planned this for generations and fine tuned the plan as it grew into its global perspective. Trap doors laid all over the place for the money boys to win with. You think your mortgage has loopholes? Can you imagine how naive the chinese were when the bankers were loaning them the original seed capital? Their government did not have the resources to fund the development and had to have allowed the owners of the factories to get funding from their customers. Brilliant on the bankers part. Necessary on the chinese governments part. A fatal mistake perhaps for the chinese government? How smart are the bankers? If i could think it, could they not? Clinton was educated at Oxford and custom picked by the global elite to be President back then according to the conspiracy theorists. Governor of Arkansas was just a warmup to tune him up. So go the theories. Clintons agenda all along has been globalist in nature. NAFTA and so on. He strongly believes that a world government is critical to the survival of man on this earth. Listen to a few of his speeches. Bush one was probably the first politician to stand up and yell "NEW WORLD ORDER" in public. Cheney has been telling everyone for years what he wants to do. All the way back to the seventies and probably before. One thing is sure about globalists. They are an arrogant bunch and love to tell others about their plans for the world. Who am I to say they are wrong? I am not nearly as smart as them. Who is to say that our country would not be better as part of a global government? hmmm. Have i drank the kool-aid? no. but i refuse to not know the enemy. and terror or the fear of it is my enemy. so is hunger, control, theft of resource, war and a bunch of other enemies...... if we are to make a world community it has to be in honor of our fellow inhabitants with hands outstretched working to help them develop and grow their own resources and buy them fairly on a truly open market exchange. not to own them like cattle and feed off the population like they are cattle or sheep. ya right...... like that will happen..... what i hope happens is they do manage to save it and from within the capitalist control centers come highly advanced individuals that can raise the level of all of the societies together to form a world that depends upon the survival of all of the coexisting countries. so interdependent upon each others survival that we all share in the problem and work on a solution to benefit us all. this leads us to share resource for advancement of the whole to assure the survival of ourselves. all at once. to raise humanity together. a move planned for centuries by a few advanced individuals within the elites that understood their enemies. long ago they discovered that it was better to own the factories and that factories were the first phase of an advanced society and that the advanced countries would support the entire structure. from the top down. for this to happen they have to prune the tree of commerce constantly and stay aware of timing to rescue defeat from the jaws of the monster. and i would think that pruning the deadwood of the markets are an important ingredient of the plan as well. we have come to pruning season and the market will prune the deadwood of poor loans and bad paper and move on. after all. the market must survive. ya right....... like that will happen..... it would make a great movie tho. maybe reality is much better than the silver screen. not intended as a comment on ron's silver either. looking forward to hearing what SOTB has to say on sunday. sure makes me wonder "who" is really behind the curtain. are those mirrors and what is that smoke? Who is Oz?