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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (14405)9/7/2007 11:46:01 AM
From: JakeStraw  Respond to of 224748
 
Pretty similar to all your posts, eh Kenneth...
In other words, EVERYONE knows what you are going to say before they read them.
EVERYONE knows your little petty transparent agenda...
Kenneth you are nothing more than a lame partisan parrot who is ignorant to any other point of view(s).
You truly represent all that is wrong with American politics today!!



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (14405)9/7/2007 2:09:09 PM
From: Ann Corrigan  Respond to of 224748
 
Nick Gillespie critiques "The Argument: Billionaires, Bloggers, and the Battle to Remake Democratic Politics"... By Matt Bai.

The New York Times

Matt Bai asks is there a major political party more stupefyingly brain-dead than the Democrats? That’s the ultimate takeaway from “The Argument,” Matt Bai’s sharply written, exhaustively reported and thoroughly depressing account of “billionaires, bloggers, and the battle to remake Democratic politics” along unabashedly “progressive” (read: New Deal and Great Society) lines. Well-financed and influential groups ranging from the Democracy Alliance to the New Democrat Network to MoveOn.org may be taking over the Democratic Party, he says, but they are not doing the heavy thinking that will fundamentally transform politics — unlike the free-market, small-government groups formed in the wake of Barry Goldwater’s historic loss in the 1964 presidential race.

Bai has the grim job of covering national politics for The New York Times Magazine, which means his livelihood depends on following closely whether the Tennessee actor-turned-politician-turned-actor-again Fred Thompson will actually run for president (a decision reportedly put off until after Labor Day, allowing an anxious nation to savor the last days of summer) and taking seriously the White House fantasies of Senator Joseph Biden (at least in Biden’s presence). While sympathetic to the new progressives, Bai describes a movement long on anger and short on thought.

In detailing the machinations of superrich Democratic activists like George Soros, who blew through close to $30 million of his wealth in an unsuccessful attempt to unelect George W. Bush in 2004, and barricade-bashing cyberpunks like Markos Moulitsas Zúniga, founder of the popular Daily Kos Web site, whose participant-readers attack all things Republican with the same fervor they showed when championing the already forgotten Ned Lamont in his unsuccessful attempt to unseat Senator Joseph Lieberman in 2006, Bai reluctantly and repeatedly owns up to a hard truth: “There’s not much reason to think that the Democratic Party has suddenly overcome its confusion about the passing of the industrial economy and the cold war, events that left the party, over the last few decades, groping for some new philosophical framework.”

To be sure, these are giddy times for the Dems. Since last year’s elections, they’re back in control of the Congress they’ve dominated most of the time since Franklin D. Roosevelt’s first term. According to a July 27-30 poll conducted for NBC News and The Wall Street Journal, the general public thinks Democrats will do a much better job than Republicans not just on global warming, health care and education but also on traditional Republican bailiwicks like controlling federal spending, dealing with taxes and protecting America’s interest in trade. The front-runner for the Democratic presidential nomination, Hillary Rodham Clinton, continues to lead her Republican counterpart, Rudy Giuliani, in most polls.

But as John Kerry might tell you, never write off the Democrats’ ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. The recent farm bill passed by the House — and pushed by Speaker Nancy Pelosi — maintains subsidies to already prospering farmers, angering not just conservative budget cutters but liberal environmentalists. House and Senate Democrats allowed a revision of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act that broadens the scope of warrantless wiretaps just after holding hearings denouncing the man who would issue them, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, for routinely abusing his power. Although the misconceived and misprosecuted war in Iraq was the issue most responsible for their return to power, Congressional Democrats have yet to put forth a coherent or convincing program to end American military involvement there.

Little wonder, then, that the NBC/Wall Street Journal poll found that only 24 percent of American adults approve of the job the Democratic Congress is doing. That’s a decline of seven points from March. There are longer-lived trends that should worry the Democrats. In 1970, according to the Harris Poll, 49 percent of Americans considered themselves Democrats (31 percent considered themselves Republicans). In 2006, the last year for which full data are available, affiliation with the Democrats stood at 36 percent. If the Democrats are in fact the party of Great Society liberals, the problems run even deeper. The percentage of Americans who define their political philosophy as “liberal” has been consistently stuck around 18 percent since the 1970s, and the Democratic presidential candidate has failed to crack 50 percent of the popular vote in each of the past seven elections.

“The Argument” provides plenty of reasons to think that the Democrats, owing to an off-putting mix of elitism toward the little people and glibness toward actual policy ideas, are unlikely to go over the top anytime soon. Or, almost the same thing, to make the most of any majority they hold. The book describes Soros, after Bush’s victory in 2004, coming to the realization that (in Bai’s words) “it was the American people, and not their figurehead, who were misguided. ... Decadence ... had led to a society that seemed incapable of conjuring up any outrage at deceptive policies that made the rich richer and the world less safe.” Rob Reiner, the Hollywood heavyweight who has contributed significantly to progressive causes and who pushed a hugely expensive universal preschool ballot initiative in California that lost by a resounding 3-to-2 ratio, interrupts a discussion by announcing: “I’ve got to take a leak. Talk amongst yourselves.” Bai never stints on such telling and unattractive details, whether describing a poorly attended and heavily scripted MoveOn.org house party or a celebrity-soaked soiree in which the host, the billionaire Lynda Resnick, declared from the top of her Sunset Boulevard mansion’s spiral staircase, “We are so tired of being disenfranchised!”

Moulitsas, the Prince Hal of the left-liberal blogosphere, comes off as an intellectual lightweight, boasting to Bai that his next book will be called “The Libertarian Democrat” but admitting that he has never read Friedrich Hayek, the Nobel Prize-winning economist and social theorist, who is arguably most responsible for the contemporary libertarian movement. Moulitsas’ co-author (of “Crashing the Gate: Netroots, Grassroots, and the Rise of People-Powered Politics”), Jerome Armstrong, talks a grand game about revolutionary change, but signed on as a paid consultant to former Gov. Mark Warner of Virginia, an archetypal centrist Democrat whose vapid presidential campaign ended almost as quickly as it began. When MoveOn — the Web-based “colossus” whose e-mail appeals, Bai says, have always centered on the same message: “Republicans were evil, arrogant and corrupt” — devised its member-generated agenda, it came up with a low-calorie three-point plan: “health care for all”; “energy independence through clean, renewable sources”; and “democracy restored.”

Recalling a meeting of leading progressives — including Armstrong, Representative Adam Smith of Washington and Simon Rosenberg of the New Democrat Network — just after the 2006 midterm elections, Bai writes: “Seventy years ago ... visionary Democrats had distinguished their party with the force of their intellect. Now the inheritors of that party stood on the threshold of a new economic moment, when the nation seemed likely to rise or fall on the strength of its intellectual capital, and the only thing that seemed to interest them was the machinery of politics.” The argument at the heart of “The Argument” is less about vision and more about strategy.

That’s bad news, even or especially for those of us who don’t see large differences between Republicans and Democrats. Our political system works best — or is at least more interesting — when big ideas are being bandied about, both within parties and between them.

Nick Gillespie is the editor in chief of Reason magazine.



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (14405)9/7/2007 6:30:54 PM
From: longnshort  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 224748
 
I thought you dems want changes to the electoral college.

Democrats vow to fight electoral college change
By Steven Harmon

MEDIANEWS SACRAMENTO BUREAU
Article Launched: 09/06/2007 03:03:48 AM PDT

SACRAMENTO -- Democratic National Committee chairman Howard Dean accused Republicans of trying to rig the 2008 presidential contest and vowed Wednesday to do "whatever it takes within legal boundaries" to stop a California ballot measure that would change how the state casts its 55 electoral college votes.

Dean, who called the initiative a "Tom DeLay/Karl Rove-type maneuver," joined Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., in a conference call to denounce the measure, whose title and summary were released Wednesday by the Attorney General's office.

Proponents, who will begin circulating petitions next week, have 150 days to gather 434,000 signatures to put it on the June 2008 ballot.

"If this gets on the ballot, the election in June would determine who's the next president of the United States," said Dean, who would not divulge details of his strategy to defeat the proposal. "So, we'll treat the election accordingly."

His comments signaled the gravity with which Democrats view the measure, which likely will spur a fierce campaign that could cost many millions of dollars.

"Democrats should worry," said Larry Gerston, a political science professor at San Jose State. "They've got everything going their way. Absent a disaster, they believe they have a very good chance to win the presidency -- and this could easily tilt the outcome against them."

Currently, California, like all but two small states, operates under a winner-take-all system and has, in each of the past
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four presidential elections, awarded its treasure trove of electoral votes to Democratic presidential nominees.

Maine and Nebraska use congressional-district allocation, but they have never split their electoral votes.

Under the measure, two electoral college votes would be given to the winner of the state and the rest would be apportioned based on congressional district.

That could mean as many as 22 electoral college votes going to the Republican nominee -- the number of congressional districts that went for President Bush in 2004. Republicans currently represent 19 districts.

"Because of this initiative, California is the main backdrop for an old-fashioned backdoor power grab to keep the presidency in Republican hands," Boxer said. "California voters are too smart for this Swift Boat-type of initiative, and we'll fight this every inch of the way."

Boxer was referring to a link between Tom Hiltachk, a GOP attorney who's behind the initiative, and Bob Perry, a Texas home builder who financed the notorious "Swift Boat Veterans for Truth" attacks on Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry in 2004.

Hiltachk's law firm, which represents the state GOP, was paid $65,000 last year by a California-based political committee that was almost entirely funded by Perry.

Hiltachk also worked on the campaign of Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger during the Gray Davis recall before serving as Schwarzenegger's legal counsel.

Schwarzenegger has indicated that he does not support the measure, saying Wednesday in a radio interview, "To me, what we have in place right now works ... I feel like if you all the sudden in the middle of the game start changing the rules, it's kind of odd. It almost feels like a loser's mentality, saying 'I cannot win with those rules, so let me change the rules.'

"I have not made up my mind yet in one way or the other because I haven't seen the details on it, but basically I would say there is something off with this whole idea."

Kevin Eckery, the spokesman for the initiative, called Democrats' attacks a "red herring."

"If you can argue the merits, you do, but if you can't, you do a guilt-by-association thing," Eckery said. "If you don't have anything to respond with, you throw out character assassination. This is them protecting their turf. They view California voters as their turf. I view them as individual voters."

Reach Steven Harmon at 916-441-2101 or sharmon@bayareanewsgroup.com.



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (14405)9/7/2007 9:42:30 PM
From: Hope Praytochange  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 224748
 
IBD stands for IDIOTS BECOME DEMORATS ... Dinosaurs