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To: SilentZ who wrote (349990)	9/8/2007 3:24:38 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1574096

All of the above requires some enforcement of the laws but you don't want to enforce the law that requires you be in this country legally if you want to work in this country. Maybe its me but you are not making a lot of sense here. It's so hard to come to this country legally these days that it's unfair. I'm afraid I don't know what to say to that......having countries and borders is unfair? I suppose but I don't see the situation changing any time soon. I'd say let people come and report to the INS and get a work permit fairly easily. If you want to work, you have to get that permit. Then, enforce the policy on the employer side, not the employee side -- if an employer hires someone without a permit, there should be severe penalties against the employer, not the employee, and those penalties should be strictly enforced. What makes you think work permits won't be forged much like the SS cards, drivers licenses, birth certificates, etc. that are forged now? The penalty should be something like, if the employer gets caught hiring someone illegally, the employer should have to pay the government the equivalent (or maybe double) the wages that he's paid the employee to date, plus all of the back taxes. Do you think an employer should be penalized because he has been given a forged working permit that looks to be authentic? I think employers should be held accountable but I don't understand why you want to turn a blind eye to the illegals entering this country and forging papers to live here. After all, they are committing a crime as well. Also, the employer should have to pay a steeper payroll tax on a foreign employee than he would on a U.S. citizen to make up for the fact that the foreign employees are not paying income taxes, sending money out of the country, and using our services, with a little left over to pay down our deficit. If he still wants to employ that person for some reason (over hiring an American), than fine. But he's paying a price, and some poor schlub from Guadalajara gets an opportunity. Additionally, that poor schlub doesn't have the specter of deportation hanging over his head, so he can join a union rather than be used as a way to weaken unions. And, of course, raise the minimum wage a bit while you're at it, so that if wages are still depressed somewhat by immigration, there's a floor to it. I guess it could work if you could find a way to make work permits forge proof. However, it seems like a lot of effort to accommodate people who are not citizens of this country. As for the issue of "what about terrorists coming into the country?" you and I both know that that's pretty overblown. There are as many or more domestic terrorists scheming against the US than foreign ones. Its not just terrorists and you know it. The major entry for drugs into this country is through our border with Mexico. Drugs are a major problem particularly in this country's poorer communities. Make sense? It seems to me that what you are proposing is unnecessarily convoluted.......and that your sympathies are misplaced which I find unusual for you. Its like you are making your typical logical argument work for a thesis that doesn't justify it. P.S.: I'm in LA for the third time and haven't heard anything about Aztlan yet. I happen to be going this afternoon to a very Hispanic area (Hawaiian Gardens) on my way to having dinner with Tenchusatsu... there's a reason for it, and it's going to make for a pretty interesting blog post. You are meeting 'coyotes' right after they delivered another 100 illegals to this country? You've heard of a Mexican restaurant that makes salsa just the way you think you will like it? You've always wanted to see a lot of stucco houses painted pink? You've decided to start dating a Mexican chiquita? What? Why so mysterious? And let me remind you........it was the Mexican president who said "Mexico does not stop at its borders". Now what does that mean to you, big man?