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To: Ilaine who wrote (22172)9/9/2007 5:57:09 PM
From: Mary Cluney  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 217557
 
<<<There's a sucker born every minute, but not everybody is a born sucker. Fool me once, and all that.>>>

Not to worry. Capitalism and the free market will take care of all that.

The reality is that we no longer have the manufacturing capacity to produce a lot of the stuff China makes. But that is okay. That is not where we want to compete.

Profits in manufacturing is tiny. Take Apple for example. They come up with the Iphone, Ipod, Iwhatever. They out source all the manufacturing. Gross margins are huge. Manufacturers make very little. Apple makes a whole lot. It is win win. Only they win a little and we win alot. That is the model going forward.



To: Ilaine who wrote (22172)9/21/2007 9:22:03 PM
From: TobagoJack  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 217557
 
<<The Chinese business model seems to be, "we'll sell you garbage cheap, and when it breaks, we'll sell you more cheap garbage.">>

... I do not agree with Stratfor's take at all, because Vietnam etc are not viable options for mass manufacturing with reliability of getting what one designed and specified, especially if one does not wish to get wiped off the arena by China-based competition, but in any case, do the letters F.O.O.L. mean anything to you at all?

You of course meant to say "The American business model seems to be, "we'll sell you garbage cheap, designed wrong, made to spec in diligent and thrifty China and when it breaks, we'll sell you more cheap and disposable garbage.", sell out our country men and women, hollow out the economy, sing the praise of new paradise, buy and leverage homes for nothing down, and spend the false gains or more stuff, after which we watch TV and lecture folks on issues we haven't a clue about" - yes?

Oh, yes, and your culturally affinit-ied Russian friends are up to no good again, doing what you do, grating toward the end game.

Again, yes, satellites fly by wings.

Will you post something intelligent on the poorly designed cribs that kill babies? Or will you pass judgement on your soldiers killing the babies of others in broad day light, sanctioned by your law? No? Why not?

chortle chortle chortle

chugs, tj

P.S. You make my days and Stratfor make my nights. Life is a hoot.

China: Mattel Takes the Blame
Summary

Mattel's executive vice president for worldwide operations issued a public apology to China on Sept. 21, taking full responsibility for the brand's design-related product recalls. Mattel's mea culpa is actually intended for a U.S. audience, however. The company's earlier failure to take direct blame has not gone down well with its key U.S. customers, so Mattel is now in damage-control mode. Potentially dangerous toys are a serious issue, but the scale of the problem is not yet big enough to spark an exodus of U.S. importers from China.

Analysis

Mattel's executive vice president for worldwide operations, Thomas Debrowski, issued a public apology to China on Sept. 21, taking full responsibility for the brand's recent rash of design-related product recalls. The statement confirms earlier reports by Chinese media that the head of the General Administration of Quality Supervision, Inspection and Quarantine, China's quality watchdog, received a letter of apology from Mattel.

The reality of the situation is that U.S. importers are not about to jump to Vietnam or Indonesia over the discovery of lead paint in some of Mattel's made-in-China toys. The big question for the industry is whether Mattel's recalls -- 15 percent of which were for lead paint, and 85 percent of which were for design problems leading to safety issues -- represent a problem endemic to China itself, or just a problem for Mattel.

Substandard toys are a matter of life or death for U.S. retailers and for other major toy brands besides Mattel -- but so far, no major importer of Chinese-made toys has breathed a word about relocating away from China. Instead, responses have ranged from apologies to tighter monitoring measures, to shrinking the number of contractors used in order to get a tighter grip on the supply chain. For all of these companies, brand reputation is central to commercial survival, which raises the question: Why would Mattel assume full blame for the recalls, instead of simply relocating outside of China?

Chinese political pressure might have been partially behind the decision -- but U.S. industry pressures have been far heavier. For U.S. retailers, the risk is that the product-quality issue will eventually taint every product "made in China" -- practically everything on their shelves. The perception that Chinese goods are unsafe across the board could be highly costly to retailers such as Wal-Mart and Toys R Us. If Mattel's brand image is endangering their bottom line, they will demand that Mattel set the record straight.

Other large toy brands (Hasbro, for example) that source from China have been feeling the heat, too. European rivals already have started to use "not made in China" status to gain a competitive edge. Some of this pressure will likely translate into political lobbying that could in turn come back to haunt Mattel -- Robert Eckert, Mattel's chairman and CEO, faced some harsh questioning at a product-quality hearing before the U.S. House of Representatives on Sept. 19.

Six weeks ago, the situation was framed as a China problem -- a view reinforced by concurrent food-safety worries. But after weeks of post-mortem audits inside China by U.S. retailers, toy importers and U.S. trade officials, an industry consensus is emerging that this is a Mattel problem. No other major toy brand has yet been forced into major recalls (though there have been a few recalls by smaller companies).

Mattel's failure to take the blame immediately when the issue first emerged in fall 2006, along with a subsequent series of product recalls, has fuelled a growing sense within the toy and retail industries that -- in addition to the Chinese product-quality issue -- the U.S. toy industry itself is seriously flawed, and Mattel is behind most of the problems. In the past, taking responsibility for such problems has enabled large brand names to pull through similar quality crises (for example, Tylenol's product-tampering scare in the 1980s). Mattel is now taking its chances with tort cases, rather than jeopardizing its relationship with major retailers.

If this were really a China problem, the toy industry would be pulling up stakes and going elsewhere for production in 2009 or 2010. A mere apology from Mattel would be of limited use -- another unsafe toy would be discovered down the line, and U.S. toy brands and retailers would be put out of business unless they could move sourcing to alternative locations such as Thailand, Indonesia or Mexico.

Substandard toys from China remain a serious issue, but the problem is not yet large enough to force U.S. importers to relocate. For the time being, U.S. industries will work hard to preserve China's image in the United States -- no toy manufacturer wants to have to spend the money to find new (and likely more expensive) suppliers if they can help it. An apology to Beijing should appease the Chinese government and secure their help to implement a pre-market testing regime announced in September by the U.S. Toy Association.

With the Christmas season just around the corner and heavy retail stakes in the balance, Mattel is biting the bullet. This is hardly the final word, however: If U.S. toy importers ever feel their control over Chinese supply networks slipping, the U.S. buyer exodus from China could be completed within a few years. Beijing knows this; thus, the government crackdowns and new quality-check policies will continue -- regardless of how well they work.



To: Ilaine who wrote (22172)9/21/2007 9:39:27 PM
From: Arran Yuan  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 217557
 
Bet you, or your ancestors if you were not born yet, could have said a lot of what you just said about Japan in 1960s? Or the Chinese said about your ancestors in late 1700 until early 1800?



To: Ilaine who wrote (22172)9/22/2007 3:25:33 AM
From: Maurice Winn  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 217557
 
CB, during an exploration of Beijing a few years ago, I asked one of the swarms of people who approached us, before the conversation got started, "Have you ever come across an honest Chinese?"

The reason was that the population is so lacking in dignity that they choose to lie in all ways to "Walking Wallets" = white people who are obviously foreign in an attempt to separate them from their money by any means possible, preferably involving deceit, lying, dishonesty, graft, sheer grabbing of money and any other undignified chimp-like means of taking possession of the desired money.

In Japan, on the other hand, when lost [a decade earlier] at 2am with a 12 year old son, Japanese out on the town would offer cash to help out [which I politely declined as we didn't need money, we needed the place to stay].

I know that poor people are supposed to lack dignity, be criminal, and do anything to get money from other people, but I don't buy that theory. Such cultural norms are more likely to keep such people poor rather than get them out of it, as they are not worth trying to deal with.

I had become tired of the deceitful approaches after many attempts to be normal and civil, so decided to conduct a different style of conversation to see where it would go. They were very articulate liars. Perhaps fine-tuning their language skills [and excellent idea] while trying to profit from various means.

But in defence of cheap junk, I enjoy buying Made in China. I have lots of it. Mostly I don't want high quality precision made German things which will last 1000 years and perform perfectly every time costing 20 x as much. I want an air compressor to work maybe 10 times a year. The money I save is better put to work in other ways. If I replace the things after only a few years, that's more economic that having high capital value sitting around unused.

By cheap junk I don't mean fake stuff which only looks real. I mean things made cheaply to keep costs down but which is serviceable enough to do the job good enough, long enough.

Mqurice