To: DMaA who wrote (219522 ) 9/12/2007 8:50:29 PM From: alanrs Respond to of 793843 I've been to Minneapolis once, for a friends wedding, and I stayed in a hotel. I have no idea what the insulation situation in MN is, I was just conjecturing about a place colder than Chicago. I grew up (until 6th grade) in Mandan, North Dakota, so I probably should have used that as a point of conjecture except nobody knows where Mandan, North Dakota is. And I have no idea what the insulation situation there is either. There are block after block of houses here, both in Chicago and the close in suburbs that remain uninsulated, to this day, and they are far from hulks. Pretty much if there is an exterior plaster and lath wall, it is uninsulated. Recently we were at a small get together and someone was asking me about old windows. His house is in Wilmette and there is a lot of stained glass involved. Houses in Wilmette with stained glass casement windows don't go cheap, although someone who lived in it previously had apparently used a hammer to close them. Anyway, the conversation turned to insulation, the pros and cons of tearing the walls down as opposed to blowing in vermiculite. I really didn't mean for this to turn into a 'thing', I really was just amusing myself while taking a break from my work. Kind of like how I might turn over in my mind how we are not allowed to import ethanol from Brazil. Or what this use of corn is doing to the price of tortillas in Mexico City. Even in this house, someone added on after the era of plaster and put dry wall up without bothering to insulate. They also cut the line and knob electrical wires, taped it directly to BX, buried it back in the wall, and then ran the BX to the outlets. Not quite code. It's always interesting what you find when rehabbing one of these old places. ARS