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To: Knighty Tin who wrote (109127)	9/15/2007 10:05:04 AM
From: Knighty Tin	Respond to of 132070

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To: Knighty Tin who wrote (109127)	9/16/2007 1:22:11 PM
From: Freedom Fighter	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 132070

KT, You may very well be right about the general and his testimony, but the fact of the matter is that if Jesus came down off the cross and gave that same exact testimony "the left" would have called him a bull shit artist and trashed him. Let's please be honest about this. They made up their mind and had a strategy for calling "the surge" a failure no matter what the testimony and what the facts. The left has a vested interest in withdrawal and failure because it increases the probability of its success later in 2007 and in 2008. US success would be a disaster for the left. And success is still possible, just not the success that was originally envisioned by the liars that got us into this mess. Giving the left credit for having more of a soul than the neo-conmen that got us into this mess to begin with is so overly generous it's absurd. The reality is that despite the false pretense that got us into the war (it was really mostly about pro Israeli influences, oil security, having a place to move our bases after we got out of Saudi Arabia, the dollar etc... and only partially about the risks of Saddam giving WMDs to terrorists someday) the current situation is a lot like making a bad investment. You don't evaluate a bad investment you made several years ago based on what you should have done then. You evaluate it based on what the price is now vs. what it's worth now. The past is gone. If there is some hope of creating a stable Iraq that is either a single republic made up of the 3 seperate groups, a single country, or 3 different countries, that's a lot better than leaving a total fiasco and a potential breeding ground for decades of instability. To evaluate what to do now, you have to weigh the costs in U.S. treasure, lives, etc... for "that" success vs. the long term upsides of success and the probabilities of it occurring. You can't just say this policy was a disaster to begin with, let's go home. That's not what most of the left is doing. They are trying to win an election or two. That's about it. They are just as big a bunch of scumbags as the people that might be lying about what's really going on in Iraq right now and what the chances of limited success might actually be.