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To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (14918)9/17/2007 1:51:45 PM
From: Ann Corrigan  Respond to of 224744
 
We know for a fact that Clinton ignored that long list of al Qaeda attacks on Americans during his Adm.

Many crazy jihadists are currently behind bars for attempted terrorist attacks within US borders since 9/11/2001. The latest episode was the apprehension of 2 fanatic Muslim college students in FL, with explosives in their vehicle.



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (14918)9/17/2007 1:58:16 PM
From: DizzyG  Respond to of 224744
 
Always on the wrong side of history, eh Kenneth?

How do we know that Bush prevented even one terrorist attack? What is the evidence?

Try looking here:

US lists 10 foiled terror plots

It is not clear how serious or advanced some of the plots were
The White House has given details of 10 major terror plots that President Bush says have been foiled by the US and its allies since the 11 September attacks.

Mr Bush cited the disrupted plans in a speech, designed to boost support for the so-called war on terror.

They include a plot to use hijacked aircraft to hit the US East and West coasts and to attack Heathrow Airport.

But the sketchy details provided by the White House make it hard to assess how serious or advanced the plans were.

Most of the plots have been previously reported in some form, but a few were revealed for the first time.

Mr Bush also mentioned five instances where targets within the US had been "cased" - including the cases of Iyman Faris who was accused of exploring the destruction of the Brooklyn Bridge in New York.

White House list of disrupted plots:

West Coast airliner
In mid-2002 the US disrupted a plot to attack targets on the West Coast of the United States using hijacked aeroplanes. The plotters included at least one major operational planner involved in planning the events of 11 September 2001.


Overall, the United States and our partners have disrupted at least 10 serious al-Qaeda terrorist plots since 11 September, including three al-Qaeda plots to attack inside the United States
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East Coast airliner
In mid-2003 the US and a partner disrupted a plot to attack targets on the East Coast of the United States using hijacked commercial aeroplanes.

Jose Padilla
In May 2002, the US disrupted a plot that involved blowing up apartment buildings in the United States. One of the plotters, Jose Padilla, also discussed the possibility of using a dirty bomb in the US.

2004 UK urban targets
In 2004, the US and partners disrupted a plot that involved urban targets in the United Kingdom. These plots involved using explosives against a variety of sites.

2003 Karachi
In the spring of 2003, the US and a partner disrupted a plot to attack Westerners at several targets in Karachi, Pakistan.

London Heathrow Airport
In 2003, the US and several partners disrupted a plot to attack Heathrow Airport using hijacked commercial airliners. The planning for this attack was undertaken by a major 11 September operational figure.

2004 UK
In 2004, the US and partners, using a combination of law enforcement and intelligence resources, disrupted a plot to conduct bombings in the UK.

2002 Gulf shipping
In late 2002 and 2003, the US and a partner nation disrupted a plot by al-Qaeda operatives to attack ships in the Gulf.

2002 Straits of Hormuz
In 2002, the US and partners disrupted a plot to attack ships transiting the Straits of Hormuz.

2003 tourist site
In 2003 the US and a partner nation disrupted a plot to attack a tourist site outside the United States.

White House list of casings and infiltrations:

US government and tourist sites tasking
In 2003 and 2004, an individual was tasked by al-Qaeda to case important US government and tourist targets within the United States.

Gas station tasking
Around 2003, an individual was tasked to collect targeting information on US gas stations and their support mechanisms on behalf of a senior al-Qaeda planner.

Iyman Faris and the Brooklyn Bridge
In 2003, and in conjunction with a partner nation, the US government arrested and prosecuted Iyman Faris, who was exploring the destruction of the Brooklyn Bridge in New York. Faris ultimately pleaded guilty to providing material support to al-Qaeda and is now in a federal correctional institution.

2001 tasking
In 2001, al-Qaeda sent an individual to facilitate post-11 September attacks in the US Law enforcement authorities arrested the individual.

2003 tasking
In 2003, an individual was tasked by an al-Qaeda leader to conduct reconnaissance on populated areas in the US.


It must really suck to be so invested in defeat, Kenneth...

Diz-



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (14918)9/17/2007 2:10:02 PM
From: DizzyG  Respond to of 224744
 
Here's another...

cnn.com



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (14918)9/17/2007 5:57:28 PM
From: tonto  Respond to of 224744
 
How do we know you have one pair of shoes from Portugal as you claimed?

How do we know that Bush prevented even one terrorist attack? What is the evidence?



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (14918)9/17/2007 5:59:24 PM
From: longnshort  Respond to of 224744
 
Greek conservatives win

By Andrew Borowiec
September 17, 2007

Greek Prime Minister Costas Karamanlis, with his wife, Natassa, waved yesterday to the supporters of the New Democracy Party. Mr. Karamanlis recognized a "clear mandate ... to continue changes and reforms" after the socialists conceded defeat.

NICOSIA, Cyprus — Conservative Prime Minister Costas Karamanlis won a second term in Greece's parliamentary elections yesterday, but his party will have a slimmer majority in parliament.

Mr. Karamanlis declared victory after his main opponent Panhellenic Socialist Movement (PASOK) party leader George Papandreou, conceded defeat.

"You have given a clear mandate to New Democracy to continue the changes and reforms which the country needs," Mr. Karamanlis said, referring to his party, in a televised address to the nation. "I will do my utmost to honor your confidence as prime minister of all Greeks."

The election results indicated New Democracy would win enough seats in the 300-member parliament to form a governing majority after the elections.

With 94 percent of the votes counted, New Democracy party was ahead with 42.2 percent, while PASOK had 38.2 percent.

New Democracy was likely to win 153 of the 300 seats in parliament, compared to 165 in the outgoing legislature, the results showed. PASOK looked set to win just 103 seats in parliament — the lowest number it has held since 1977.

Mr. Karamanlis, whose party was dogged by its poor response to the wildfires that killed 65 persons and ravaged whole villages last month, had warned that if his party failed to win a decisive majority, he would call new elections.

Mr. Papandreou, in a final attempt to capitalize on the fires, had pledged to name an environment-conscious Cabinet.

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