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To: Sun Tzu who wrote (242161)9/18/2007 2:03:36 PM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
The US military command in Iraq has failed to capture a single Quds Force member it could link to the Shi'ite militias

What an artful claim, implicitly admitting that the US military HAS captured Qods Force members INSIDE Iraq, but still denying that they have anything to do with the Shiite militias - despite the abundant proof of Shiite militias using Iranian shaped charges and other techniques, despite caputured militamen's admissions that they had been trained by the Qods Force.

Oh no, no, no, when the US military is involved, that's not enough. Standards of proof suddenly rise to infinity.

We are all to supposed that the Qods Force officers were in Iraq on pilgrimage to Najaf.

Puh-lease.



To: Sun Tzu who wrote (242161)9/18/2007 2:51:21 PM
From: geode00  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
The entire point of the surge was political reconciliation. The surge was supposed to give Maliki breathing room to figure out how to make nice with the Sunnis.

With zero political progress being made (actually negative since the Kurds have basically declared their independence and the head Sunni guy has been killed), the surge is an utter failure in its stated mission. Most of the media is too lazy to pay attention so they keep repeating the nonsense that the surge is working because of reduced hostility in Anbar.

Dubya failed at something completely of his own making with nearly unlimited resources: the war and the surge. It is quite remarkable that anyone believes he can even tie his own shoelaces.