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To: tejek who wrote (351289)	9/20/2007 5:44:06 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573789

Islam considers all of Saudi Arabia to be holy ground. Some radical Islamicists might, but even with them I'm not sure how much the thought is real and how much its a pretext. Saudi Arabia is a political entity that was created by the conquests of the house of Saud. Much of its territory has no historical connection with Mecca or Medina, which both used to be controlled by the Hashemites. The US military was in places like Dhahran on the other side of the country.

To: tejek who wrote (351289)	9/20/2007 5:53:40 PM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1573789

You instinctively accept the most hostile (to America) opinions and parties as right and legitimate and bend over backward to side with them. Did you know we helped saved the PLO from destruction by Israel? Did you know when we sent troops to the Gulf in 1991, we did so in defense of Arab countries, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia (sure it was in our interest, as it should be)? Did you know we reflagged Kuwaiti oil tankers and fought a brief naval war with Iran in the '80's to protect Arab shipping? Did you know we forced a ceasefire on Israel back in 1973 which prevented it from decisively defeating Egypt and Syria? Did you know we've been the primary financial backer of the PA? Did you know we have done the most to try to make peace between Israel and its neighbors, including the Palestinians? A couple of Presidents have personally worked as negotiators to this goal. Now we've overthrown a brutal dictator and given an Arab country a chance to rule itself democratically. The Arab world has no legitimate greivances against us. Unfortunately, leftwingers are so anti-American they instinctively side with terrorists and anyone else anti-American so they can't accept this fact. -------------------------------------- Islam considers all of Saudi Arabia to be holy ground. No it doesn't. If it did, SA wouldn't have had hundreds of thousands of non-Muslims working in the country for the last 50 years. Osama bin Ladin says all of Saudi Arabia is holy ground. Maybe you consider him the spokesman for Islam? Anyway, your acceptance of his claim is an example of the instinctive siding with terrorists and other extremist anti-American viewpoints I mentioned above. ------------------------- we relied on a friendly govt in Iran to maintain order in the region. Bingo! That's exactly the attitude that pisses people off and gets al Qaida on American backs. The Shah was a good and progressive ruler. He liberated women, promoted western education and economic development, redistributed land to small farmers from the mullah-dominated landholding class. But he was friendly to America, so the left demonized him and takes the side of people like Khomeini and Ahmadinejad.