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To: DMaA who wrote (220757)	9/21/2007 10:37:52 PM
From: alanrs	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793750

There are ways people can use alcohol, cars, cigarettes, and swimming pools pleasurably and profitably. Can you say the same with heroin? Yes, undeniably. The first time one gets addicted to heroin it takes roughly 25 days IN A ROW (it took me 28). That's why so many of these kids can do the crap. It's called chipping. They do it on the weekend, or tuesday if the room is painted green. Anything I could say about this is true legal or illegal. All this stuff is equally true, LEGAL OR ILLEGAL. Admit the problem exists and deal with it, or keep it as is, with all its growing influence and power. ARS Edit: What I was trying to get across is that it is a pleasurable experience. Pleasurable being in the eye of the beholder of course, as is everything else. I don't like the experience of being drunk. It's too sloppy. When I drank, and I did a fair amount of that, I usually did speed or coke along with. That's me. Some people like the experience of being drunk. Who am I to say they can't ? Further edit: Profitably. Yes again. The one thing I liked about heroin was that it made life simple. Emotions went away. Being addicted is different from doing it to get high. You really don't get high after a while. You get well. It's called 'getting the sick off'. It doesn't mess with your reasoning ability at that point, quite the opposite. A great state of mind for mathematics or engineering or stock trading. That would depend on the persons interests and ability. Further edit: Oh who cares. Not me. Don't want to spend the weekend dredging all this crap up. Some drugs bad, some drugs good, depends on the person using them. Drugs don't kill people, guns kill people. Or something like that.

To: DMaA who wrote (220757)	9/22/2007 12:53:11 AM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793750

Can you say the same with heroin? When you contrast the amount of heroin used with the number of addicts that die of it each year, it's obvious that most can "skin-pop" it or whatever as a recreational drug. There is just too much use to say otherwise. It could well be the same kind of 80/20 or 90/10 we see with booze. We will never know, because we have been sold a bill of goods on this, I think. What I have just realized this last month is that there is some kind of international cartel for the legal use of Morphine and it's various derivatives. And it is a secret. I can find NOTHING that lays out the production and distribution of it. All I know that most of the legal use comes from India and Turkey. And that the price is artificially controlled. At a high price.