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To: LindyBill who wrote (220890)	9/23/2007 2:02:31 PM
From: KLP	Respond to of 793866

Give the Dems some time, and they will suggest we sponsor the entire world for medical benefits....all one has to do it seems, is come in illegally. Indeed, when Democrats and liberals speak of the 50,000,000 uninsured Americans, more than one fifth of those are illegal immigrants.

To: LindyBill who wrote (220890)	9/23/2007 2:02:33 PM
From: KLP	Respond to of 793866

dup.

To: LindyBill who wrote (220890)	9/23/2007 4:40:47 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 793866

In effect, her plan would turn "insurance" into "subsidy." The concept of insurance is that one pays a relatively low premium to guard against catastrophic expenses that are outside of our ability to meet financially. But Hillary's program would really be nothing more than a cash transfer from the healthy to the sick, not an insurance program at all. I may be missing something here, but isn't this the usual definition of insurance (unless it's term insurance)? I pay health insurance month after month, and if I don't get sick my premiums go to pay for the care of those who are sick, plus profit for the insurer. That's how the scheme works. Furthermore, while we may not be very happy to pay for medical care for illegal aliens, it's a public health necessity. Illness is no respecter of citizenship status, and illnesses they bring in, measles, tb, whatever, will spread to the general population. They have to be treated, and turning doctors into immigration officials will only prevent necessary treatment.

To: LindyBill who wrote (220890)	9/23/2007 8:51:29 PM
From: MJ	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793866

Currently, there is an age limit at which heart transplants will not be done. A friend showed me a picture of a 90 year old man who is a pianist ---several years ago he was expected to die due to heart failure-----somehow his son was able to work around the requirement on age and got a heart transplant for his father in his mid 80's at the time. The old gentleman functions well and is back to playing the piano. May we all be so fortunate. Under HIllary's system the following would likely be the outcome as noted by the writers of the article "For the first time, the word "no" would come into our system. Do you need open heart surgery? Are you a poor risk because of smoking or diabetes or age? No longer would the bureaucrat at the other end of the phone say "we won't pay for it" or "you don't need it" or "we can't fit you in at our facility." The answer would simply be no -- even if you pay for it yourself, you may not have one. It is this type of coercion that drives Canadians over the border to the U.S. in search of medical options denied them at home under their socialized medical structure. Now it would operate on both sides of the border." mj