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To: RetiredNow who wrote (351656)9/23/2007 9:29:13 AM
From: SirVinny  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1576628
 
Big deal even if it is. It means less energy wasted heating our homes in the winter. It means more land for agriculture. And with the melting of the ice-caps, more water for irrigating our planet.



To: RetiredNow who wrote (351656)9/23/2007 11:07:07 AM
From: longnshort  Respond to of 1576628
 
no they don't go to the envirnmental thread and educate yourself. COMRADE



To: RetiredNow who wrote (351656)9/23/2007 11:10:59 AM
From: longnshort  Respond to of 1576628
 
Disgraceful Global Warming Hysteria at NBC: 'Meltdown in Greenland'
NEWSBUSTERS
By Noel Sheppard | September 19, 2007 - 00:28 ET

The media's global warming hysteria is clearly becoming unhinged.

First, ABC News published a photo essay at its website Friday prominently displaying computer generated images of U.S. cities drowned by climate change raised seas.

Then, on Monday's "Nightly News," NBC's environmental correspondent Anne Thompson, reporting from Greenland, cautioned viewers that the "summer thaw, picking up dangerous speed 300 miles north of the Arctic Circle...could ignite worldwide disaster."

How pleasant, wouldn't you agree? I sincerely hope few Americans were watching this abomination while they were eating dinner. After all, Thompson ominously began her report (video available here, h/t Marc Morano):

Before you can see it on Greenland's massive ice sheet, you can hear it. The summer thaw, picking up dangerous speed 300 miles north of the Arctic Circle. Accessible only by helicopter, there are no trees, birds or wildlife here, just the ice. And that's leaving, too.

Thompson was touring Greenland with Konrad Steffen, who told her:

We have seen that the temperatures increased over the last 15 years by about five centigrades... About 10 Fahrenheit... So this is a large temperature increase.

Thompson responded: "Happening so fast, instead of taking decades or centuries to react, the University of Colorado at Boulder scientist says the ice is now changing on a yearly basis."

Hmmm. So, Steffen has only been measuring Greenland's temperature and ice levels for eighteen years. Yet, Thompson opted not to interview anybody to discuss what conditions were in this part of the world prior to 1989, or to present any information whatsoever about the area before Steffen was there.

Is that good journalism? Why might Thompson have completely ignored the history of the area?

Could it be that multiple studies concerning Greenland suggest that the ice sheets there have been melting since 1880? Or that the average yearly temperature in Greenland since 1955 is actually cooler than those seen between 1881 and 1955?

I guess such historical facts are unimportant when they go counter to your agenda.

As a result, what Thompson did was similar to what most press representatives are doing concerning this issue, namely, only presenting recent data which appear catastrophic without giving any historical reference that demonstrates how common current conditions might be, or how they compare to the past.

Alas, the really disgraceful hysteria was yet to come:

THOMPSON: The scientists are trying to figure out how much water goes down through those moulins, because the theory is that that water gets between the bottom of the ice sheet and the bedrock, causing the ice sheet to move. That movement could ignite worldwide disaster.

Mr. STEFFEN: If you take Greenland alone and put it into the ocean, melt it or break it off, sea level will rise about seven meters, 21 feet.

THOMPSON: Here's what would happen. Water would swamp much of the Netherlands, nearly wipe Bangladesh from the map and sink the southern third of Florida.

How unbelievably irresponsible. After all, even the most recent Assessment Report from the United Nations' Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change predicted a maximum sea level rise in the next 100 years of only 23 inches.

Yes. 23 inches. Less than two feet over the next century.

Yet, the "NBC Nightly News" felt comfortable reporting to the citizenry a 21-foot rise in ocean levels that "would swamp much of the Netherlands, nearly wipe Bangladesh from the map and sink the southern third of Florida."

Honestly, this is getting absurd. When are news producers and editors going to end this nonsensical hysteria?

After all, this isn't journalism. Not even close.

This is activist alarmism specifically designed to produce enough anxiety in the population to engender support for governmental solutions to a crisis that hasn't be proven actually exists.

For more information refuting Thompson's claims, please see Marc Morano's July 30 posting at the Senate's EPW blog entitled "Latest Scientific Studies Refute Fears of Greenland Melt."

That said, what follows is a full transcript of this segment.

ANNE THOMPSON, NBC's ENVIRONMENTAL CORRESPONDENT: Before you can see it on Greenland's massive ice sheet, you can hear it. The summer thaw, picking up dangerous speed 300 miles north of the Arctic Circle. Accessible only by helicopter, there are no trees, birds or wildlife here, just the ice. And that's leaving, too.

Mr. KONRAD STEFFEN: We actually see an increase in melt and thaw, and that we relate to the increase in temperatures.

THOMPSON: This is Konrad Steffen's 18th year on the ice sheet. He came to study how the weather interacts with the ice and found climate change.

Mr. STEFFEN: We have seen that the temperatures increased over the last 15 years by about five centigrades.

THOMPSON: Which is, what? Ten...

Mr. STEFFEN: About 10 Fahrenheit.

THOMPSON: Farenheit.

Mr. STEFFEN: So this is a large temperature increase.

THOMPSON: Happening so fast, instead of taking decades or centuries to react, the University of Colorado at Boulder scientist says the ice is now changing on a yearly basis. This ice is not smooth. It's crunchy, pockmarked by melt holes, divided by streams and rivers of melt water running into moulins, which are giant, vertical caves. This one, some 330 feet deep...

Unidentified Man: Yeah. You're fine.

THOMPSON: ...you can only see into by harassing yourself to a lifeline and crawling on your hand and knees to its fragile edge.

Wow!

Steffen measures the moulins with what looks like a blender. Inside are a tiny computer, lasers and cameras.

Mr. STEFFEN: I want to know the volume of this big cavity because we're trying to calculate how much energy goes into the ice.

THOMPSON: Energy in the form of water.

The scientists are trying to figure out how much water goes down through those moulins, because the theory is that that water gets between the bottom of the ice sheet and the bedrock, causing the ice sheet to move. That movement could ignite worldwide disaster.

Mr. STEFFEN: If you take Greenland alone and put it into the ocean, melt it or break it off, sea level will rise about seven meters, 21 feet.

THOMPSON: Here's what would happen. Water would swamp much of the Netherlands, nearly wipe Bangladesh from the map and sink the southern third of Florida.

Currently, Steffen says, the ice Greenland loses every year is twice as much as all the ice in the Alps. That breaking off, or calving, is most dramatic at the Jakobshavn glacier, flowing three times faster than just a decade ago, sending icebergs into the fjord every day with enough water to meet New York City's needs for a year.

Mr. STEFFEN: It is not just a temperature increase.

THOMPSON: The Swiss-born Steffen advises both the Bush administration and Al Gore, and fields calls from the not-so-famous.

Mr. STEFFEN: From people who are going to retire and to say, `I have bought beach property in--either in Florida or in Central America. Is it worse to move West, or how high should I build my house?'

THOMPSON: The world asking him to see the future in this sheet of ice. Anne Thompson, NBC News on the Greenland ice sheet.

—Noel Sheppard is an economist, business owner, and Associate Editor of NewsBusters.

newsbusters.org.



To: RetiredNow who wrote (351656)9/23/2007 11:12:22 AM
From: longnshort  Respond to of 1576628
 
Global Warming's Polar Opposition
Marc Sheppard

Need more proof that the Big Green Scare Machine is spoon-feeding you cherry-picked non-science to further their AGW alarmist agenda? Try this.

While news of Arctic ice shrinking to its lowest level on record is being screamed everywhere, like here and here and here, the emergence of colder weather and ice levels at their highest in almost 30 years on the other side of the globe has been all but ignored.

In coming months, you're sure to hear a lot about how global warming has created that which has eluded explorers from John Cabot in 1497 to Henry Hudson in 1609 forever - the fabled Arctic Ocean shipping lane known as the Northwest Passage.

And, while it's true that satellite photos have found an ice-free corridor along Canada, Alaska and Greenland and Northern Hemisphere ice at its lowest level since such images were taken in 1978, it's also true that Antarctic ice levels (Southern Hemisphere) are at record highs for that same period.

That's right, according to the University of Illinois Polar Research Group website The Cryosphere Today:

"The Southern Hemisphere sea ice area has broken the previous maximum of 16.03 million sq. km and is currently at 16.26 million sq. km. This represents an increase of about 1.4% above the previous SH ice area record high"

To be sure, this historic bipolarity of the Southern Hemisphere sea ice maximum corresponding with a Northern Hemisphere sea ice minimum is puzzling.

The fact that climate illusionists will only reveal the heads side of the coin certainly is not.

Hat tip: Powerline

americanthinker.com



To: RetiredNow who wrote (351656)9/23/2007 11:26:04 AM
From: steve harris  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1576628
 
In the 70s, the growing Antarctic ice shelf was proof of the next ice age. Now the growing ice shelf in Antarctica is proof of global warming.

The "experts" are idiots and with algore as their spokesman, any rare fact that may be presented should be suspect.