To: Oeconomicus who wrote (62572 ) 9/23/2007 7:52:54 PM From: Brumar89 Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 90947 I know there is a "Christian left":sojo.net And there are Christian pacifists like the Quakers, Mennonites, etc. I think they're misguided in many of their views but thats another issue. They're not the source of our problems. I also recognize these folks are a very small portion of the Christian world and a very small portion of the cultural Left. The article I originally posted didn't mention Christianity except to identify the vilification of Christianity is one of the symptoms of our cultural decay:the steady disintegration of our social standards, which is advanced by liberalism on every front — from the vilification of Christianity, to the election of sleazy lowlife like Bill Clinton to the highest offices, to the vile garbage fed to young people by the entertainment industry, to the rejection of mores in the name of "tolerance," to the bleeding heart sympathy with which society's worst enemies are invariably rewarded, and on and on ad nauseam. moonbattery.com For those who think there isn't a cultural aspect to leftism and that the goal of that cultural aspect isn't the complete destruction of our society's traditional values and culture, allow me to repost something from a SI leftist which explicitly says otherwise:All kinds of people, of every class and socioeconomic group take drugs (even Rush :-). It's hard to find someone who hasn't smoked pot, for example. That's a move to the left. ………………. Craig may not accept homosexuality, much of the rest of the country does. Heck, we've got states where they can marry. Can you say wild swing to the left? You can't discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation in several states. I don't know where you've been that you missed that, but that's a leftward move, and a big one. …………..we no longer are forced to pray in school as we were when I was a kid, nor are we paddling kids. Leftward Ho. ……. Look at young people- atheism and agnosticism and Eastern religions seem to be gaining some serious ground. Message 23869868