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To: Road Walker who wrote (352173)	9/26/2007 4:44:08 PM
From: SilentZ	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1577883

>Where I think he is right is that for the Dems to win they need to keep towards the center. I've watched the failed attempts by Howard Dean, Eugene McCarthy and George McGovern. And I watched Bill Clinton win. The center is an ever-moving place but it is where the votes are. You sure about that? I mean, for one thing, most people want to get out of Iraq and not go into Iran, but that's defined as "left." Same with universal health care. >Where I think he is right is that for the Dems to win they need to keep towards the center. I've watched the failed attempts by Howard Dean, Eugene McCarthy and George McGovern. All of the above ran during wars that American wasn't quite ready to get out of. >And I watched Bill Clinton win. Bill Clinton won his first election against GHW Bush, who was historically unpopular and viewed as entirely out of touch. He won his second election against a way-over-the-hill Bob Dole and possibly only because Perot was in the race. >I personally think Obama would make the best President. But I think Hillary would make the best candidate. I'm not sure I agree, but fortunately, we don't have to think about the "best candidate," if the current climate holds up another year. Any of our top four guys can win in '08. -Z

To: Road Walker who wrote (352173)	9/27/2007 4:24:45 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1577883

Where I think he is right is that for the Dems to win they need to keep towards the center. I've watched the failed attempts by Howard Dean, Eugene McCarthy and George McGovern. And I watched Bill Clinton win. The center is an ever-moving place but it is where the votes are. Yes, but the center has moved too far right. I think that's been happening since Reagan. Clinton won because the country was moving right. I think that has started to reverse in the last three years. To whit, Salon suggests Hillary is moving left. I am not in my twenties but I find Hillary pretty conservative. And Daily Kos is hardly radical.....maybe to the beltway crowd but for those of us on the West Coast, DK sounds very mainstream.