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To: FJB who wrote (241369)9/27/2007 8:12:50 PM
From: PetzRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 275872
 
Good move my AMD, I think -- open source video drivers

anandtech.com

But it's only at the very earliest stages. Apparently, complete specifications for GPU's are never published.

So far AMD has released two specification documents, one covering the RV630 (HD2600 series) and the other covering the M56 (Mobility X1600). To give you an idea of the complexity of these specifications, they only cover the first two steps, initialization and primitive 2D, and yet they add up to just shy of 900 pages. Amazingly, these are (as far as we know) AMD's own internal documents and not new documents created/censored for public use, which is one of the factors that have convinced us about how serious AMD is about their efforts.

In spite of the length of the documents however, they are really only the tip of the iceberg. With these documents programmers can create a driver that turns the video card on and can draw a basic 2D image via directly manipulating the frame buffer (and indeed Novell's driver is already close to achieving all of this so soon), but that's it. These specifications are not enough to enable advanced 2D functionality such as blitting, blending, or video decode acceleration. They are also not enough to do any 3D rendering.


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Releasing the rest of the specs required to build a fully functional driver will expose information that isn't usually public, such as details of the Ringbus memory controller, the UVD video decoder, the programmable anti-aliasing processor, latencies, texture compression, and basically everything else needed to identify the strengths and weaknesses of their chips along with some idea of how AMD goes about implementing all of the major features in those chips. Even though the specifications to their chips won't be anywhere near enough to duplicate the chips, it is a start for anyone that needed some "inspiration." The GPU development cycle is still short enough that it's plausible that someone could steal AMD's technology and implement it before it is outdated; where someone doesn't have to be only NVIDIA.

Petz



To: FJB who wrote (241369)9/27/2007 10:41:27 PM
From: pgerassiRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 275872
 
Dear Robert:

This discussion is more about wireless infrastructure but does impact AMD indirectly. Mostly through its mobile platforms.

Essentially Sprint is having its wired users both POTS (GTE and long distance), cellphone users and internet subscribers subsidize its wireless rollout. They pay the $5.8K/mo to themselves for internet access and simply add WiMax to each cell tower which is already paid for. OTOH, the data density will still be low as a cell site covers 3-12 square miles (a cell tower has 6 pie shaped zones). Even using the zones, a few thousand will be active in each zone in the downtown area. That pushes down the average rates to below 20Kb/s which not many would pay more than a $1 a month surcharge (most will want it free). Not enough to pay for the infrastructure.

Only in rural areas not served by other wired means, does it become feasible (no true competition). The required data density is low (<20 users in a cellphone zone), so its possible to have just one WiMax cell per zone where each fixed user gets about 1-3Mb/s rates plus the few roaming users.

As for the mobile notebook user, such capability will become standard and AMD can use any third party's device to make it happen.

Pete