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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (352846)	9/28/2007 7:25:18 PM
From: combjelly	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1576434

"Here a link straight from the source which I know you won't spend any time clicking on:" Ok, Tench, there is a perfect example of spin and/or nuance since you have such a tough time recognizing it. Rush stated, unequivocally, that the soldiers who have made public statements about opposing the war are phony soldiers. The he uses a single example of a soldier who didn't serve in Iraq to make his case. However, there are plenty who have gone on record as opposing the war who are actual, uniformed soldiers who have served in Iraq or currently are. So either Rush lied or those other soldiers are phonies too. Ok, ok, you can try to defend him and say he was exaggerating to make a point. But "exaggerating" in this case is just spin. What he said was wrong on the face of it. At best, it describes a minority of the cases, at worst, it describes only one. Now, in the link Rush says I was talking about one soldier with that phony soldier comment. Now that is nuance. His statements clearing were including all soldiers who have spoken out against the war. He even says "phony soldiers" more than once. Now, suddenly, he is trying to nuance his way out of it by claiming he was talking about the one. Hope this helps.

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (352846)	9/28/2007 8:34:11 PM
From: bentway	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1576434

The two transcripts are identical. They both include: "RUSH: The phony soldiers." It's clear and not in dispute.

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (352846)	9/28/2007 9:31:40 PM
From: steve harris	Respond to of 1576434

It doesn't fit their template...

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (352846)	9/28/2007 10:30:25 PM
From: steve harris	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1576434

Does it multiply properly on an AMD processor? :) foxnews.com

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (352846)	9/29/2007 7:41:51 AM
From: Alighieri	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1576434

What a hoot...this guy spends 3 hours a day doing to others what is occasionally done to him...well deserved I say. If ever there was a traitor of the word United in the United States of America, this fellow has earned the blue ribbon. Al ======================================================== So I'm a "Phony Soldier," Rush? Posted September 27, 2007 \| 03:07 PM (EST) As Media Matters reported today, Rush Limbaugh, on his show said that those troops who come home and want to get America out of the middle of the religious civil war in Iraq are "phony soldiers." I'd love for you, Rush, to have me on your show and tell that to me to my face. Where to begin? First, in what universe is a guy who never served even close to being qualified to judge those who have worn the uniform? Rush Limbaugh has never worn a uniform in his life -- not even one at Mickey D's -- and somehow he's got the moral standing to pass judgment on the men and women who risked their lives for this nation, and his right to blather smears on the airwaves? Second, maybe Rush doesn't much care, but the majority of troops on the ground in Iraq, and those who have returned, do not back the President's failed policy. If you go to our "Did You Get the Memo" page at VoteVets.org, there's a good collection of stories, polls, and surveys, which all show American's troops believe we are on the wrong track, not the right one, in Iraq. Does Rush believe, then, that the majority of the US Armed Forces are "phony?" Third, the polls and stories don't even take into account the former brass who commanded in Iraq, who are incredibly critical of the Bush administration, and it's steadfast refusal to listen to those commanders on the ground who have sent up warning after warning. Major Generals John Batiste and Paul Eaton left the military and joined VoteVets.org for that very reason. Does Rush believe that highly decorated Major Generals are "phony soldiers?" Finally, as Media Matters notes, just recently, members of the 82nd Airborne in Iraq wrote a New York Times op-ed, very critical of the course in Iraq, and suggesting it was time to figure out the exit strategy. Two of them just died. Will Rush call up their grieving parents and tell them that they should stop crying, because they were just "phony soldiers?" Get the point here, Rush? You weren't just flat out wrong, you offended a majority of those of us who actually had the courage to go to Iraq and serve, while you sat back in your nice studio, coming up with crap like this. My challenge to you, then, is to have me on the show and say all of this again, right to the face of someone who served in Iraq. I'll come on any day, any time. Not only will I once again explain why your comments were so wrong, but I will completely school you on why your refusal to seek a way out of Iraq is only aiding al Qaeda and crippling American security. Ball's in your court.