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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: tejek who wrote (15931)	9/28/2007 8:20:28 PM
From: longnshort	Respond to of 224744

dailykos is a hate site. no wonder you like them you nazi

To: tejek who wrote (15931)	9/29/2007 9:26:26 PM
From: Ann Corrigan	Respond to of 224744

Gloves are off:Obama says Hillary Worked the System HALEY RAMER, Associated Press Writer Sept 29, 2007 CONCORD, N.H. - Democratic presidential hopeful Barrack Obama said Saturday his public service experience trumps that of rival Hillary Rodham Clinton's, and he tried to use her husband's words to make his point. Obama, a first-term senator from Illinois, said his background as a community organizer, lawyer, professor and state senator is more valuable than Hillary Clinton's experience "working the system" as first lady and in other roles. In doing so, Obama tried to throw former President Clinton's words back at him, quoting comments Bill Clinton made in a 1992 debate with the first President Bush. "The same old experience is not relevant. ... And you can have the right kind of experience and the wrong kind of experience," Clinton said at the time. "He's exactly right," Obama said at a rally. "What we need to do is put an end to the wrong kind of experience." Obama cited his success in helping to enact campaign finance reform as an Illinois legislator and an ethics overhaul while in the U.S. Senate. He said the nation does not need "the kind of experience that tinkers around the edges instead of doing something fundamental about how lobbyists operate in Washington." "We need the kind of experience that I think I bring to this race, of bringing people together to get things done," he said. In a recent television interview, Bill Clinton was asked to compare questions about Obama's experience with similar questions he faced when he ran for the White House in 1992. Clinton noted that he was governor of Arkansas at the time, when the major issue of the day was not a foreign war but restoring the economy. He said he was closer to Obama in experience in 1988, when he decided not to enter the presidential race. "And I really didn't think I knew enough, and had served enough and done enough to run," he told Bloomberg Television. "That doesn't mean that he shouldn't. That's his decision." A spokeswoman for Sen. Clinton's campaign declined to respond to Obama other than to note that a half mile from where he spoke, more than 250 of her supporters attended a campaign organizing convention.<

To: tejek who wrote (15931)	9/29/2007 11:24:15 PM
From: Ann Corrigan	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 224744

Limbaugh on Solid Ground on 'Phony Soldiers' Sept 29, 2007 House Democrats are apparently considering a resolution to castigate Rush Limbaugh for having the nerve to allege that there are 'phony soldiers' bragging about their exploits in Iraq. As long as they're at it, perhaps they'll actually denounce the phony soldiers. Fact is, there are thousands of 'phony soldiers' nationwide; the problem is so great that Congress passed legislation to crack down on the epidemic. Jesse MacBeth is just the tip of the iceberg. Publications like the Army Times and Navy Times have written about phony veterans many times. A sample: Justice Department officials in Washington state detailed Porter’s story, along with seven other people accused of — or already convicted of — being military frauds, during a news conference Friday on VA fakers. “We take it seriously because this money is meant for veterans, not for fakers,” James O’Neill, assistant inspector general for the VA’s office of investigations, told Military Times. “Every dollar that’s lost to a faker is one more dollar that can’t be spent on a veteran,” said O’Neill, whose office is responsible for rooting out those who defraud VA. More from the same publication: It’s not unheard of for Marines to embellish their service after leaving active duty or for civilians who’ve never served to pass themselves off as Marines. It’s happening all over the country this very minute... Posers, in other words, are getting less ambitious. Among the dozen or so cases that have popped up so far this year — including five recent ones in this week’s issue — some are merely claiming to be a Marine, without all the battlefield exploits and mounds of chest candy. Those who do claim valor among their traits aren’t shooting for the Medal of Honor or service crosses. Fake Silver Star cases seem to be en vogue, as are phony Purple Hearts. Want more? There's a whole website devoted to the problem. There's another website with numerous news stories about it. How serious is the problem of 'phony soldiers?' Congress last year passed legislation to allow prosecution of people who claimed medals that they had not earned. It passed both the House and Senate unanimously. It was introduced by Congressman John Salazar (D-CO), whose press release on the measure lists several phony heroes -- Michael O'Brien, Lawrence Hammer, and Gilbert Velasquez. The stories above mentioned Larry Porter, Merrick Hersey, Michael Heit, Carlos Valle Rios (a registered sex offender, by the way), Preston Garris, Glenn Marshall, Tim DeBusk... the list goes on and on. According to NPR, there are 50 ongoing investigations by the FBI into violations of Salazar's legislation. When Limbaugh referenced 'phony soldiers,' he specifically cited the case of Jesse MacBeth. Liberal critics have laughably complained that he cited only one case while using the plural. Fact is, there are dozens and dozens on the public record, and it seems highly likely that there are thousands nationwide. If Congress intends to criticize Limbaugh for talking about people like Jesse MacBeth, what message does that send about how seriously they take the offenses of that military impostor and others like him? It would directly oppose the message they sent last December, when they passed the Stolen Valor Act.