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To: Lee Lichterman III who wrote (23325)9/29/2007 10:47:14 AM
From: elmatador  Respond to of 218008
 
I know. The problem is and has been always the leadership. I'm saying that because I worked there 8 and half years in the 80s. Went back there for 6 months 2004/05. and that was in Nigeria, not in the normal African countries.

It has changed in the last 20 years but not to the extent that it will improve. They will enter the demographic window by 2085. So they have 78 years to go.

I'm working here for a South African company. Most of the guys already left and the other ones are planning to leave. The country manager for the supplier (Ericsson) has already a prepared to move to New Zealand. he told me how things are there.

I wanted to go there -to SA I mean- to see the parks and the country. It made me thing but I go one day there to see.

It is a said state of affairs down there. Looks like all that efforst they made to build the country was for nothing...

I'm no racist, against anyone, but the black man is surely the most screwed up in the planet earth.



To: Lee Lichterman III who wrote (23325)9/30/2007 10:39:27 PM
From: elmatador  Respond to of 218008
 
"Business is good here, and Nigeria is safer than South Africa. In South Africa armed robbers will take your money and kill you, but here in Nigeria, they will take your money and apologize."

South Africa goes shopping
These days South African businesses are everywhere in Nigeria, and trade between the two countries has jumped from $11 million to $11 billion in 11 years.
By Leonard Lawal, Fortune
September 27 2007: 9:51 AM EDT

(Fortune Magazine) -- The Palms shopping center in Lagos is the largest mall in sub-Saharan Africa. It's managed by a South African company, Broll, and most of its stores - Game, Shoprite, NuMetro, Nandos - are South African brands. The largest mobile-phone company in Nigeria? It, too, is South African: MTN, which has captured nearly 50% of the market.

Indeed, in Nigeria these days South African businesses are everywhere. Entech, a South African engineering firm, is leading a $3 billion redevelopment of Lagos's Bar Beach and Victoria Island waterfront. Another South African firm, Group Five, is building a power station in the Niger River delta.


A Shoprite store in Lagos. Trade between South Africa and Nigeria has jumped from $11 million to $11 billion in 11 years.

And the largest tourism project in the country, in Tinapa, is a joint venture between Standard Bank, Broll, and Southern Sun - all South African firms. (Standard Bank also just swallowed Nigeria's IBTC bank.)

A Khartoum boom, courtesy of China
South Africa's invasion of Nigeria, which began as a trickle after the end of apartheid in 1994, has turned into a flood over the past five years. Trade between the two nations has jumped from $11 million in 1994 to more than $11 billion in 2005, the last year for which reliable statistics are available. And the number of South African firms doing business in Nigeria has increased from just four in 1999 to hundreds today.

"They have chosen the sectors they intervened in very carefully," says Frank Aigbogun, publisher of Businessday, a leading financial daily in Lagos, which has Johnnic Communications, a South African media giant, as a partner. "They filled a void in the investment space in Nigeria. Remember that the Europeans and Americans, wearied by endless years of military rule, did not quite know how to respond to the evolving democratic environment."

Most Western companies that invested in Nigeria focused on the lucrative oil sector, leaving huge swaths of the economy open to South African entrepreneurs.

The pioneer, says Olusola Obadimu, executive secretary of the Nigerian-South African Chamber of Commerce, was South African cable company DSTV/Multichoice, which captured 95% of the satellite-TV subscription market in the 1990s.

"No Western company will take the kind of risks they took," Obadimu says. "But their teams came down, felt the pulse of the populace, and they succeeded." MTN followed in Multichoice's wake a few years later - "They rode on that kahuna," as Obadimu puts it - when the government auctioned off mobile-phone bandwidth.

"Western telcos were not interested for obvious reasons of lack of infrastructure," he says. "But South African firms knew of the success of DSTV/Multichoice, and they invested. It reflects the long-term vision of the government in Pretoria, which saw Africa as one trading bloc. It's a small country but highly industrialized, and they need new markets."

A Texas company in Sudan
South African leader Thabo Mbeki, whom former Nigerian President Olusegun Obasanjo had befriended during the struggle against apartheid, won concessions from the Nigerian government to facilitate trade. Among them were agreements to protect South African firms against future nationalizations and to eradicate double taxation, meaning South African firms that pay taxes in Nigeria are exempt from paying taxes on profits repatriated to South Africa.

Not all South Africans have been welcomed with open arms, and it's not uncommon to hear them described by Nigerians as "neocolonialists." There are complaints about price gouging and other unfair practices.

MTN is a particular target. It took a boycott some years back to get it to charge customers by the second instead of rounding up to the next minute. And the Nigerian Senate recently rebuked MTN and other carriers for their high dropped-call rates.

"These people are exploiting us," says Tokunbo, a Nigerian MTN engineer who asked to be identified by his first name, referring to South African businesses. "Western companies won't engage in some things these South African firms do in cahoots with our fellow Nigerian officials." MTN did not respond to requests for comment.

None of that has lessened South Africa's investment offensive. South Africa's Eskom collects debts and runs the prepaid-card operations for the local energy monopoly, Power Holding Corp. of Nigeria, a notoriously inefficient company scheduled for outright sale.

Ariva, another South African company, operates the national lottery, and Telkom is bidding for Multilink, a wireless-network provider. Even the ballots in this year's contentious elections were printed in South Africa.

As Warren Trokis, a manager at Shoprite, a South African grocery chain in Lagos, explains the attraction, "Business is good here, and Nigeria is safer than South Africa. In South Africa armed robbers will take your money and kill you, but here in Nigeria, they will take your money and apologize."



To: Lee Lichterman III who wrote (23325)9/30/2007 11:26:33 PM
From: Nikole Wollerstein  Respond to of 218008
 
Africa is Racism, Corruption and Communist ideology
nice collection of articles here:
zimbabwesituation.com



To: Lee Lichterman III who wrote (23325)12/14/2007 1:03:14 AM
From: elmatador  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 218008
 
Sub-Saharan Africa is becoming an increasingly attractive hunting ground

On safari
Dec 13th 2007 | JOHANNESBURG
From The Economist print edition

Sub-Saharan Africa is becoming an increasingly attractive hunting ground

THIS month Omar Bongo—the longest-serving ruler in Africa—celebrated 40 years in power in Gabon. In Libreville pictures of him hang everywhere. But outside the country, Gabon achieved a far more impressive landmark, when it raised $1 billion on the international markets—becoming only the third country in continental sub-Saharan Africa in two decades to issue sovereign bonds abroad.

The West African country has oil, close ties with China and better-managed public finances, which are three of the ingredients sought after by Africa's foreign creditors—even those who may struggle to find Gabon on a map. Increasingly, other African countries, including those without oil, are also arousing interest among outsiders. Ghana launched an international sovereign bond in September. Kenya, and possibly Zambia and Tanzania, hope to follow.

There is a dizzying sense of the gold rush about the way investment bankers are peddling the continent to investors. Many portray parts of sub-Saharan Africa as the new frontier for risk-takers, offering returns that, it is hoped, will be uncorrelated to the fluctuations of developed markets. Sometimes the salesmen gloss over the political risks, the corruption and the debilitating exposure to commodity cycles. But it is not all hype. High commodities prices, good debt-management (the proceeds of Gabon's ten-year bond will go toward buying back its Paris Club debt), debt relief and better economic leadership have produced the strongest growth and lowest inflation in sub-Saharan Africa in over 30 years. South Africa is still the biggest magnet for foreign portfolio investment, but capital is flowing into shares and bonds elsewhere, too (see chart).

Even those countries unable to issue international bonds are preparing the ground. Standard & Poor's (S&P), a credit-rating agency, has been working since 2003 with the United Nations Development Programme and rates 13 countries in sub-Saharan Africa. In November S&P opened its first African office in Johannesburg. Ratings provide a proxy measure of country risk and demonstrate a country's commitment to transparency, both of which should help attract foreign capital.

Domestic debt markets are also opening to foreigners—though most of the money is being raised by states, rather than private companies. In the West African Economic and Monetary Union, annual issues of publicly traded government debt have grown tenfold since 2000, reaching 383 billion CFA francs ($770m) in 2006. In some sub-Saharan countries, 10-20% of local sovereign bonds are now held by foreigners, according to the IMF.

Because investing in local markets can still give foreigners headaches, some banks are offering synthetic securities instead. For example, South Africa's Standard Bank, which operates in 18 African countries, packages local government bonds into instruments it sells to foreign investors. Meanwhile, the development institutions are doing their bit to spur innovation. The African Development Bank has issued eight Eurobonds denominated in, or linked to, African currencies, starting with a bond in Botswanan pulas in 2005. The International Finance Corporation (IFC), the private arm of the World Bank, has done currency swaps in Zambian kwachas and Nigerian nairas.

Equity investors are also finding a way in, though via circuitous routes. Most stock exchanges outside South Africa and Nigeria remain minuscule and illiquid, but returns are picking up. Renaissance Group, a Moscow-based emerging-market bank, says that its index of 50 shares listed on 11 exchanges across sub-Saharan Africa increased by 39% in dollar terms between January and October this year—compared with 29% for the broader MSCI emerging-market index. Making the markets more accessible to outsiders, Merrill Lynch is listing its Africa Lions Index certificates, which track shares in at least 15 African countries, on several European exchanges.

Is the appetite likely to last? On the one hand, more transparency means less scope for corruption and profligacy. Provided the funds are used sensibly, they should keep on coming. But until Africa's economies become more diversified, they will be over-exposed to changeable weather, fickle aid flows and volatile commodity prices. Ultimately, Africa has to manage the bounty carefully. After an unprecedented wave of debt relief, it would be a shame to drown in debt again.



To: Lee Lichterman III who wrote (23325)5/31/2008 2:42:00 AM
From: elmatador  Respond to of 218008
 
"calm they (S. Africans) have enjoyed between 1990-2008 was simply a coffee break which is now over, and normal service has resumed: discrimination and violence."

Looks like some blacks were put in high places. Are incompetent. Serve only as figure heads. Then put some affirmative action to appease the shirtless...

But the only possibility for a country to develop is to get more resources than people. Demographics. Now if there’s a constant inflow of people, they start weighing on the resources of the locals. The past solutions was tribes. Baby is born and get tribal marks to know he could consume the resources available for the tribe. Outsiders were chased away.

What happened with South Africa is that system they put in place had a lot of attractiveness for the neighbors. And they piled in. Reality bites back. Oil and high food prices, economy not skyrocketing to accommodate all the shirtless and a truth started dawning: There is no solution. Unless demographic window comes th Africa (in about 70 years time).

The problem was not the white people. The problem was the black people too many of them. South Africa now joins the roll of failed states. In the past once population grew beyond the resources available, neighbors could be enslaved to be used as labor and have a share of the local resources. If they would raise they would be exterminated. Then there was no moral ethics we have today of ethnic cleansing. It was every man for himself.

The slave trade provided a window to diminish the amount of people for the given resources available without enslaving them or slaughtering. Just plain selling the people to be sent to Brazil, Caribbean and the US. In this respect, slave trade was humane instead of evil. Because staying behind also meant death and suffering and only the strongest would have survived.
As it always is. Either survive inside the ship and the new harsh environment or survive at home in Africa.

By the way MTN -this pan African company- is going to suffer. The killings will certainly blow back. MTN trying to sell now may mean capital flight before the whole thing deteriorates into to chaos.