To: wbmw who wrote (241493 ) 9/29/2007 9:33:00 PM From: fastpathguru Respond to of 275872 I can see why you think the MIT professor should be taken seriously, but I actually don't think you have understood exactly what he has said. He is saying that antitrust law is based on protecting competition. Like me. Onward...In my previous post, I called out a particular piece of the professor's reasoning that relates competitive environments to protecting the consumer. That's the crux of what I am saying. You mean in this post?Message 23924233 I don't see how "antitrust policy is not directly about consumers" supports your claim that "antitrust law is written to protect consumers."The fact that the courts decided that Microsoft's practices were destroying any hope of competitive products coming out (in the case of free Media Player installs, which gave consumers little incentive to pay for competitive products), does not in any way conclude that Intel should be found guilty in their entirely different scenario. New topic... shifting gears... A) The Microsoft case he testified for was the US case against MS, not the EU one. B) Nobody is making the claim you've stated above, that because MS got tagged that Intel should. Intel is in the process of getting tagged for a whole different set of reasons. Nevertheless, EC vs. MS may be useful in judging what Intel may be up against.You say that the facts are obvious, and that I am being stupid for ignoring them, but you have yet to tell me what Intel has done that is harmful for consumers. You're taking comments I made regarding the foundation of antitrust law and applying them to your strawman. The only claim I made about Intel harming consumers is that they had reduced my choice as a consumer with their illegal exclusionary deals in Japan.Unless you can relate their *proven* behaviors back to harming the consumer, as the courts did in the case of Microsoft, I don't think you have a case to claim that Intel's behaviors are obviously harmful. A) Not being insiders in the case, all we can do is speculate. It's up to the EU to prove their case in court. B) In the spirit of speculation, it would be enough if the EU can show that Intel interfered with AMD's ability to compete, the doctrine of "consumers are best served by free competition" implies that consumers were harmed. And that's why protecting competition vs. protecting consumers is an important distinction. See: Message 23923519 fpg