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To: Elroy who wrote (243635)	10/1/2007 11:36:39 AM
From: one_less	Respond to of 281500

When building or re-building anything certain facts of reality must be considered. If you are building a new home, you can't design it so that your kitchen will extend over onto a neighbors property, you can't violate the neighborhood's home owner's association policies, you can't leave the foundation out of a three story house or forget to finish it with a roof, etc. So, basic rules must be in place and enforced upon you a priori, if we expect the finished product to stand up and persist. Once you have a clear understanding of the design requirements, those who will inhabit the new home must have complete control and autonomy over the details. Anything else is an abuse of authority by those who would be guardians of the rules.

To: Elroy who wrote (243635)	10/1/2007 12:40:26 PM
From: Peter Dierks	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

"Hand over political control to the Iraqis faster than happened. Hand over policing responsibilities to Iraqis faster than happened. Stuff like that comes to mind, but as I said, society control is not my field. " Leaders had to identify themselves. When we first liberated Iraq people like Chalabi had tremendous advantage, and over time others have shown to be leaders. Nobody is denying that there were serious errors. FWIW: I was at a wedding of a marine in late September 2000. Many of the marines in attendance were being encouraged to undergo Arabic training. There was a major push which continued at least as long as I conversed frequently with the groom to increase the Arabic fluency within the military. I believe that the push continues today.