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To: snookcity who wrote (109353)10/2/2007 8:58:46 AM
From: Knighty Tin  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 132070
 
snook, Since it's pot limit and very much slanted to the betting part of that game, it probably won't help much in Horse. I love Omaha.



To: snookcity who wrote (109353)10/2/2007 9:29:10 PM
From: Knighty Tin  Respond to of 132070
 
Snook, I also forgot to mention that Slotboom's book has nothing in it about High-Low Omaha, the kind played in Horse.
They used to have a few articles here, rolfslotboom.com, but they seem to have disappeared them with the publication of the new Pot Limit Omaha book. BTW, the Limit Hold 'Em book claims to be written by Rolf, but, when you read it, he contributes very little. It looks like he used his name to help his friend get some sales. Still, it's pretty interesting. Sometimes Limit Hold 'Em is like discussing how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. <G>



To: snookcity who wrote (109353)10/3/2007 3:05:56 PM
From: Knighty Tin  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 132070
 
My registered mail finally arrived at The Isle of Man, 16 days after sending it. That method of making a deposit is highly unrecommended. <G>



To: snookcity who wrote (109353)10/11/2007 12:57:51 PM
From: Knighty Tin  Respond to of 132070
 
Fitting Rolf Slotboom's Omaha advice to my playing style:

1. Parts I haven't used: I have thrown out the part about playing 10 person tables, buying in for the minimum, and only playing super premium hands. Good advice, all, but not practical in today's online game. Rolf is European, so it may still be applicable to his games at Party Poker, which are not available to Americans.

Only the largest sites offer full table Omaha, at all. Ultimate Bet is the only one to feature 10 player tables. And UB cannot fill those tables (pretty much one for each maximum buyin level) most hours during the week. You can play them weekends, most of the time.

PokerStars and Full Tilt only offer 9 player tables, and only PS has them filled most hours of the day.

The blinds, relative to stack sizes, are too high to sit, as Rolf does, for 3 hours straight without playing a hand. The minimum buyin gets whittled away. Think of a $200 no limit table. The blinds are $1-2 and you pay in that $3 each turn around the table. Which is about 12 minutes. That means $15 per hour on a buyin of $40. If you sit for 3 hours before you get a premium hand, you will have had to rebuy and there is a very good chance your premium hand will get no action, or not enough to pay for the chips you have contributed to the pot through blinds. Now, 3 hours is exceptional, but even 45 minutes will eat up your stack.

Also, the majority of players buy in for less than the maximum, hoping to catch lightning in a bottle, so you are not likely to "fly below the radar."

2. The main thing I've learned from the book is that many of the things treated as gospel are, in fact, not true. The most important, to me, is that people who play "HoldEm" hands are not all jackasses and donks and monkeyfish. It turns out that the Hold Em hands, high pairs, have huge advantages over drawing hands, even though most Omaha books counsel against playing them. In Limit Omaha, this is true. You are going to go to the river most of the time and in multiple player pots, somebody is going to draw out on you. But, in pot limit, a player with AAxx knows he has the best hand before the flop. If he is able to get all of his money in pre-flop, he is a big favorite over any single drawing hand. He is also a money favorite (he may have contributed 30% of the pot, but has a 45% chance to win) on multiple player pots. I now treat my aces and kings with much more respect. And, if someone calls me a "holdem donk," as they often do, I just take their money and mute their chat. <G>

3. The 6 player table is taking over and I seem to be doing o.k. there. Slotboom plays many more hands at a short table. And his recommendations are great. But he still prefers the 10 player tables when he can find them. I have done well on the 9 player and the occasional 10 player table at UB. But I can play 24/7 on a choice of six player tables.