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To: TobagoJack who wrote (23429)10/2/2007 10:40:26 PM
From: Condor  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 217802
 
Jay
Can you help here?
Thx
C
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To: TobagoJack who wrote (23429)10/3/2007 12:29:18 AM
From: elmatador  Respond to of 217802
 
Post-mortem tech bubble after 7 years. Key important points:

Tech bubble was a localized phenomenon.

Center of gravity OECD countries
There were few countries that could fuel the bubble because the vast majority were only consumers, they didn’t have the industries to sell tech products

Main drivers: Internet was nascent and mobile networks taking off
Once cold war ended a plethora of technologies were made available for civilian uses. Many entrepreneurs, engineers and scientists saw the market for technologies exclusive of military use.
GSM networks were taking off and agglutinated in the tech boom.

PC mature making computers were cheap enough
By the time it kick-started, PCs were cheap enough to be mass marketed. Asia could ship them by the truck load. Windows easy to use was already established

Lasted too long.
The length is an important factor. Students went to the university to cash in on it providing cheap specialized labor

Telecom ACT of 1996 added fuel.
This is important because:
1) Telecommunications moved to become tech and added critical mass. Telcoms was until them like water, sewage and electricity just an public service utility
2) companies not sure how the Act would come out, went to foreign countries to sell their gear. Case in point cable TV

Those were the planets that aligned to make the bubble possible.

Today for an investment bank perspective, they have anything to compare with what is going today and go back to the only thing they saw in their short life time. The tech bubble. But we know for sure they are wrong.

Thus, this, what’s going on right now, namely, the emerging markets’ boom, it is not a repetition of the tech bubble.



To: TobagoJack who wrote (23429)10/3/2007 12:44:02 AM
From: elmatador  Respond to of 217802
 
"Judging from the flows of funds from investors in the developed countries into emerging market funds, it is fairly clear where most of that money is heading. Eastwards"

How about the money going westwards? China was buying U.S. paper wasn’t it?

How about from moolah rich GCC countries to the west?

From China that bought the Blackstone Group as the mechanism to invest westwards?

The China $200bn Sovereign fund?

There's a few cents going south, and even this small change is not staying there. It is going back to buy companies that match the strategies of the big exporters.

The arrow, doesn't point in a single direction only. You should send a reply to that email, TJ!



To: TobagoJack who wrote (23429)10/3/2007 12:46:15 AM
From: elmatador  Respond to of 217802
 
Capital is not going to be kept confined inside China. Day will come that that export platform no longer suit the capital owners and it will spread from there.
Message 23234177



To: TobagoJack who wrote (23429)10/3/2007 1:30:07 AM
From: elmatador  Respond to of 217802
 
Asia approaching 'bubble' territory in many Asian equity
markets? Nothing could be farther from truth. The currencies are not going up! They are just recovering to where they were already in 1997/98.

But today is not 1997/98. Because they have reserves...

Now what we need is to reach where they were in 1997/98 and then from there take off...

klaser use the term false start for Brazil post 1994. Byt the same token, we can use the 90's as Asia's false start. this is the real start.