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To: Elroy who wrote (353362)	10/3/2007 9:30:26 AM
From: Joe NYC	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1576858

Elroy, From the little I know, Hanukah is a made up holiday, just to make sure that Jewish kids don't feel left out when Christian kids get present. The big Jewish holidays just past in September. And kids get days off in NYC schools for some of them. Joe

To: Elroy who wrote (353362)	10/3/2007 10:17:30 AM
From: longnshort	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1576858

Mosque says to avoid Western holidays 'Thanksgiving Out' Stewart Bell, National Post Published: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 TORONTO - A Toronto mosque is telling Muslims not to say "Happy Thanksgiving" or invite friends into their homes for turkey dinner on the holiday weekend. The Khalid Bin Al-Walid Mosque says to "avoid participating" in dinners, parties or greetings on Thanksgiving because it is a kuffaar, or non-Muslim, celebration. A two-part article on the mosque Web site says Muslims should also "stay completely away" from "Halloween trick-and treat nonsense," Christmas, New Year's, anniversaries, birthdays and Earth Day. "How can we bring ourselves to congratulate or wish people well for their disobedience to Allah? Thus expressions such as:Happy Thanksgiving, Happy Birthday, Happy New Year, etc, are completely out," it says. In 2003, the Khalid mosque, which mainly serves the Toronto Somali-Canadian community, apologized for a newsletter that compared wishing someone a Merry Christmas to congratulating a murderer. At the time, a junior employee was blamed for the slight, but the mosque's Web site has since posted similar edicts covering not only Christmas but also virtually every other Western celebration. Muslims who participate in the holidays are termed ignorant and hypocritical. While not all are religious holidays, the Internet site says Muslims are required to be different from non-Muslims "in matters which are representative of them or are characteristic of their identity." Also banned, it says, are: watching sports or soap operas, walking dogs, family photos, wedding bands, Western hats, mingling and shaking hands with the opposite sex. "Allah and his messenger have warned us against following or imitating non-Muslims in things which are characteristic of their religion or beliefs. This is more emphasized in the case of their eids [festivals] or occasions, which always hold some religious or ideological non-Islamic meanings, and on which the kuffaar indulge in many evil practices." The Web site also has a question-and-answer section, which advises that Muslims can join political parties only if they are "able to exert some influence on the direction of the party so that it will take an Islamic direction." Elsewhere in the Q&A section, it says that, "with strong determination and patience, the world will God-willing be under the Muslims' control." The mosque is run by a federally registered charity. Rival factions within the Somali Muslim community are fighting in court for control of the charity. The mosque president could not be reached yesterday. © National Post 2007

To: Elroy who wrote (353362)	10/3/2007 2:25:51 PM
From: SilentZ	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1576858

> Jewish kids take off Hanukah (if they do - I can't really recall whether Jewish kids took Jewish holidays off from school - too long ago!). Not Hanukkah, it's not that type of holiday, but a solid portion of Jews take off several holidays (including this coming Thursday and Friday)... -Z