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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (243864)	10/3/2007 3:15:07 PM
From: one_less	Respond to of 281500

"No it didn't. It concluded that MAS was denying its background, but as you climbed higher in the organization, they let the secret out that they were still Ikhwan." ooops. Here is what your article actually says. "Shaker Elsayed, a top MAS official, says the organization was founded by Brotherhood members but has evolved to include Muslims from various backgrounds and ideologies. "Ikhwan [Brotherhood] members founded MAS, but MAS went way beyond that point of conception," he says." That doesn't look like a denial to me. Your complaint is that you can find links to terrorism, because some of their members can be linked to Egyptian radicals. I bet I could find links to heinous criminals and religious radicals if I knew all of your affiliations as well ... so what? (rhetorical question) The group has been building and evolving in America to establish an ideology, and published it matching exactly what you have said you would approve of ... this is the basis for their mission in America and for membership. but wait, there is something missing, as I re-read that publication I notice they forgot to include a blanket condemnation of Islam as evil, and their fundamental beliefs as lies. Is that it Nadine? "Boy are you easy to fool!" I don't think so but feel free to keep trying. Best regards, gem

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (243864)	10/3/2007 3:24:47 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Tell me again which part of this statement offends you so much? "We are faced with a complex and dangerous phenomenon and a deadly vicious cycle perpetuated by people who are both fanatic/misguided and desperate, and others who are simply bigot. We need a comprehensive multifaceted approach/strategy and coordinated efforts to break this cycle and proactively and effectively combat terrorism. We recognize that injustices like erosion of civil liberties, backing of corrupt and oppressive regimes in the Muslim world, complete reliance on security and intelligence, shallow public relations efforts, and inflammatory/inciting statements in the media, by some religious leaders, or even public officials play well into the hands of extremists. And this too must be rejected. However, we are committed to be more vocal and more active in our attempt to isolate terrorists and terrorism, deny them recruits, sympathy, and any religious or political legitimacy. All within our society should be united against terrorism and work together. Therefore, we call upon our government to address genuine grievances being exploited by the terrorists, engage the American Muslim community and leadership and moderate Islamic groups abroad, and aggressively promote human rights and democracy in the Muslim world. The media, for its part, needs to be more aware and objective in its coverage of Islam and Muslims. Islam-bashing fuels hatred and plays into the hands of terrorists. "