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To: tejek who wrote (353492)	10/3/2007 4:28:00 PM
From: Jim McMannis	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1575798

You'll love this one Ted, By Paul Harvey Conveniently Forgotten Facts. Back in 1969 a group of Black Panthers decided that a fellow black panther named Alex Rackley needed to die. Rackley was suspected of disloyalty. Rackley was first tied to a chair. Once safely immobileized, his friends tortured him for hours by, among other things, pouring boiling water on him. When they got tired of torturing Rackley, Black Panther member, Warren Kimbo took Rackley outside and put a bullet in his head. Rackley's body was later found floating in a river about 25 miles north of New Haven, Connecticut Perhaps at this point you're curious as to what happened to these Black Panthers? In 1977, that's only eight years later, only one of the Killers was still in jail. The shooter, Warren Kimbro, managed to get a scholarship to Harvard and became good friends with none other than Al Gore. He later became an assistant dean at an eastern Connecticut State College . Isn't that something? As a '60s radical you can pump a bullet into someone's head and a few years later, in the same state, you can become an assistant College dean! Only in America ! Erica Huggins was the woman who served the Panthers by boiling the water for Mr. Rackley's torture. Some years later Ms. Huggins was elected to a California School Board. How in the world do you think these killers got off so easy? Maybe it was in some part due to the efforts of two people who came to the defense of the Panthers. These two people actually went so far as to shut down Yale University with demonstrations in defense of the accused Black Panthers during their trial. One of these people was none other than Bill Lan Lee. Mr. Lee, or Mr. Lan Lee, as the case may be, isn't a college dean. He isn't a member of a California School Board. He is now head of the United States Justice Department's Civil Rights Division, appointed by none other than Bill Clinton. O.K., so who was the other Panther defender? Is this other notable Panther defender now a school board m ember? Is this other Panther apologist now an assistant college dean? No, neither! The other Panther defender was, like Lee, a radical law student at Yale University at the time. She is now known as the "smartest woman in the world." She is none other than the Democratic Senator from the state of New York ----our former First Lady, the incredible Hillary Rodham Clinton. And now, as Paul Harvey said; "You know the rest of the story". Pass this on! This deserves the widest possible press. & also remember it, when, she runs for President. This is proven right by both SNOPES.COM, and TruthorFiction.com

To: tejek who wrote (353492)	10/3/2007 4:34:26 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1575798

I wasn't thinking in terms of cutting people because of productivity gains. I was thinking in terms of employers who offshore large numbers of jobs that would normally go to Americans. Productivity gains account for a far larger part of the reduction in manufacturing jobs than off shoring. Also off shoring contributes to productivity gains through allowing for greater specialization and competitive advantage, and in some cases increases jobs in the US, or prevents greater loss of specific jobs from having the whole operation move, or go out of business after it loses to a foreign competitor. Management's argument for doing so is so that they can stay competitive in a global economy but that doesn't stop them from giving themselves plush offices and huge salaries and bonuses. If you hate the bonuses for moral or aesthetic reasons then argue directly against them, but in practical terms they aren't very meaningful. Most of the CEOs getting really large salaries and bonuses are heads of huge companies, and their compensation tends not to be a significant part of the cost structure of a company. In the cases where it is that's more the business of the specific company and its shareholders, than it is really a issue properly addressed in political terms. "Loyalty" in the sense that you apparently are using the term, would generally decrease all sorts of productivity increases. For specific people it might be good, esp. in the short run, but for the country and the world as a whole it would be very negative. If Americans "buy American", and Canadians "buy Canadian", and Chinese "buy Chinese", and Germans "buy Germans", you reduce the benefits from trade. That includes trade in services through outsourcing, not just trade in manufactured goods.