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To: LTK007 who wrote (25853)10/3/2007 8:25:22 PM
From: Crimson Ghost  Respond to of 81164
 
When the MAJOR issue facing the world is finally putting the war mongering Israel lobby and its Christian Zionist supporters in their place, bringing up David Duke really is a diversion from the main task.

David Duke is not the problem today THE ISRAEL LOBBY IS. Duke is a vicious racist but has not killed anybody while the victims of the Israel lobby number in the hundreds of thousands. Billionaire Jews pushing for an attack on Iran are thousands of times more evil than Duke was or is.



To: LTK007 who wrote (25853)10/4/2007 2:16:55 AM
From: Jamey  Respond to of 81164
 
Max90,

I suggest that you research the number of Boer (white) farmers that have been murdered and attacked by blacks since apartheid.
Maybe this will change your opinion about your unfair attacks upon Searle.

According to the South African Police Service National Operational Co-ordinating Committee:

"Attacks on farms and smallholdings refer to acts aimed at the person of residents, workers and visitors to farms and smallholdings, whether with the intent to murder, rape, rob or inflict bodily harm. In addition, all actions aimed at disrupting farming activities as a commercial concern, whether for motives related to ideology, labour disputes, land issues, revenge, grievances, racist concerns or intimidation, should be included."[1]

This definition excludes "social fabric crimes", that is those crimes committed by members of the farming community on one another, such as domestic or workplace violence, and focuses on outsiders entering the farms to commit specific criminal acts. The safety and security MEC for Mpumalanga, Dina Pule, has disagreed with this definition and has stated that a farm attack is "when the sole motive is to take the life of the person who resides on the farm and nothing else."[7] Human Rights Watch has criticised the use of the term "farm attacks", as they suggest this is "reinforcing, through the use of the word "attack", the idea that there is a military or terrorist basis for the crimes, rather than a criminal one."[6]

[edit] Committee of Inquiry
A Committee of Inquiry into Farm Attacks was appointed in 2001 by the National Commissioner of Police. The purpose of the committee was to

"inquire into the ongoing spate of attacks on farms, which include violent criminal acts such as murder, robbery, rape, etc, to determine the motives and factors behind these attacks and to make recommendations on their findings."

[1] The Committee used the definition for farm attacks as that supplied by the SAPS. The findings were published on 31 July 2003, and the main conclusions of the report were that:

Perpetrators tended to be young, unemployed black men overwhelmingly from dysfunctional family backgrounds.
Only a small proportion of attacks involve murder
Theft was committed in almost all cases - in cases where no theft appeared to take place, it was usually because the attackers were disturbed
White people were not targeted exclusively - in 2001 61% of farm attack victims were white
The Transvaal Agricultural Union (TAU) questioned a number of the report's findings, claiming that theft and desire for land did not adequately explain some of the attacks.[8]

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Jim