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Politics : The 2nd Amendment-- The Facts........ -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: RMF who wrote (2872)10/4/2007 6:46:16 PM
From: longnshort  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 10167
 
Because having a gun is a RIGHT.

Driving is a privilege.



To: RMF who wrote (2872)10/4/2007 7:57:30 PM
From: ManyMoose  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 10167
 
You've already had the only answer you need. siliconinvestor.com

Since that's not enough for you, there are many practical reasons why registration is unworkable.

Numero uno: criminals will not register, so the only people who are affected are law-abiding citizens.

Numero dos: the government will come knocking on our doors every time your unregistered .38 goes off, because their database has our .38s but not yours.

Numero tres: The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. Registration is an infringement.

Numero quatro: Who is going to pay for this giant database that doesn't work? Answer: Law abiding citizens who buy guns, register their guns, buy ammunition, and so forth. You won't have to pay because you don't register your .38.

Numero cinco: No conceivable benefit will arise from this giant infringement.

Numero seis: Registration does nothing to prevent crime; it only makes it easier for criminals to get away with it.

etc. etc.



To: RMF who wrote (2872)10/5/2007 2:33:03 AM
From: JeffA  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 10167
 
This is a stupid liberal argument.

I don't register my guns because they are a constitutional RIGHT. Driving is a privelege. Geez, go back to 7th grade civics.



To: RMF who wrote (2872)10/5/2007 10:30:13 AM
From: Jim S  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 10167
 
One of the key reasons I'm so adamant against registration is the "slippery slope" argument. That is, it is always the first step towards confiscation. In EVERY instance where guns were registered (Germany, England, Australia, Argentina, etc.), it is the first step towards more restrictive laws, a path that eventually ends with outlawing firearm ownership.

Furthermore, "keeping and bearing" arms is not just a right because it happens to be one of the enumerated rights in the Constitution, it is a HUMAN right to have the ability to defend one's self. But, since it IS an enumerated right, The Constitution give all of us the footing to demand our rights to "keep and bear." Restrictions on that right are akin to having to ask permission to express your opinion, going (or not going) to a church of your choice, being denied a lawyer in criminal cases, having military troops quartered in your home, not allowing warrantless searches of your home, etc, etc.

IMO, the Government already knows too much about each and every citizen. Gun registration would be just another datapoint with huge potential for abuse by an intrusive government.



To: RMF who wrote (2872)10/5/2007 1:11:21 PM
From: d[-_-]b  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 10167
 
If you drive a car the car has to be registered and you have to have a license

Rights, privileges - look them up.

I don't see anything wrong with having every gun registered.

I don't see anything right about it - Canada created a registry, cost them millions and not once has it been used to solve a crime - so what's the point?

WHY would a gun owner object to having his/her gun registered if they aren't planning to use it for anything illegal.

Why would you assume they plan to do something wrong - did they not acquire the gun legally?

I wouldn't mind having to register it if it would get some of the other handguns off the street.

This is a stretch - registering your gun does not cause unregistered guns to turn themselves into the police.

I would NOT want anybody telling me that I had to give my gun up. If they did that I would hide the sucker.


So now you plan to be a criminal if they ban guns by keeping yours - how quickly you fell apart on principles. If they became illegal I'd turn mine in because I am a "Law Abiding" citizen first and foremost - that said - I'll fight (and vote) like hell to stop that from happening.

Comparisons to what the Founding Fathers wanted seem absurd

You apparently don't need your other rights because our government could never be corrupted - have you ever taken a history lesson?