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To: gg cox who wrote (23494)	10/4/2007 8:06:07 PM
From: Snowshoe	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 217734

I bet Slagle could tell you how to start a mule too. But here's a couple that might give him a challenge: Advance Rumley half-scale steam tractor... Message 23166303 1959 Allis-Chalmers fuel-cell tractor... Message 23166317

To: gg cox who wrote (23494)	10/5/2007 1:46:08 AM
From: energyplay	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 217734

I think that there might be some popular mechanics or similar articles from the 1950s or books from that era on doing 6V to 12V conversions. Not sure how much of this stuff might be on the internet. A county agricultural extension might even have booklets on doing it. I expect you can figure thing out for yourself, but the books might cover some 'gotchas' . If you reverse the ground, does the solenoid move the right way to engage the starter ? Here's someone who did a conversion - plamondon.com

To: gg cox who wrote (23494)	10/5/2007 12:59:38 PM
From: Slagle	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 217734

gg, That Massey Harris is a neat old tractor. There are not too many of those down south in my part of Georgia, Alabama ect. Down here there were lots of Farmalls, Deers, Fords, Allis Chalmers and Case. Later there were a good many Massey Fergusons, we had a couple of them, a 1962 model with the big Perkins diesel and a later model with an A/C cab. That enclosed cab is great for bush hogging where you have lots of hornet and bumblebee nests. <GRIN> I still have a 1965 model 4000 Ford diesel that we bought new. My favorite tractors were a 1959 Ford 841 diesel and a 1965 International 504 diesel. I really think the 504 is the best small tractor ever built, about 50hp and tough as nails and was the last small utility tractor IH built here in the USA. The model it replaced, the IH or Farmall 460 is about worst tractor of that era, a real piece of junk. Even has an automotive engine block, both the gas model and the diesel use the same way too light block and to make matters worse the block was used as a structural member. The 460 had a sort of three point hitch with an external cylinder, an attempt to get around the Ford/Ferguson patent on the lift. From online pictures I see that Massey Harris looks a little like a Case or an Allis of that period. Does it have a three point hitch? What do you use it for? Bet it is a pretty beast. Slagle