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To: one_less who wrote (244357)	10/8/2007 6:13:26 PM
From: Proud_Infidel	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 281500

You are correct if you are saying I am intolerant of the most extreme forms of intolerance. Again, pointing out facts is "intolerance" if they go against your particular belief system. Amazing that you never speak out against these intolerances, but you have no problem calling me names.

To: one_less who wrote (244357)	10/8/2007 6:16:08 PM
From: Proud_Infidel	Respond to of 281500

Iran Acquits Serial Murderers Who Killed in the Name of Islam BBC ^ \| 4/15/2007 \| Frances Harrison news.bbc.co.uk Iran's Supreme Court has acquitted a group of men charged over a series of gruesome killings in 2002, according to lawyers for the victims' families. The vigilantes were not guilty because their victims were involved in un-Islamic activities, the court found. The killers said they believed Islam let them spill the blood of anyone engaged in illicit activities if they issued two warnings to the victims. The serial killings took place in 2002 in the south-eastern city of Kerman. 'Morally corrupt' The case raises serious questions about vigilantes in Iran taking justice into their own hands and undermining the rule of law. Up to 18 people were killed in just one year, but only five of the murders were tried in court. According to their confessions, the killers put some of their victims in pits and stoned them to death. Others were suffocated. One man was even buried alive while others had their bodies dumped in the desert to be eaten by wild animals. (Excerpt) Read more at news.bbc.co.uk ....

To: one_less who wrote (244357)	10/8/2007 6:17:07 PM
From: Proud_Infidel	Respond to of 281500

Police in central Italy say they have uncovered a bomb school for Islamist militants after raiding a mosque in Perugia(or.....It's NOT just a few bad apples) Italy police raid 'terror school' Police in central Italy say they have uncovered a bomb school for Islamist militants after raiding a mosque in Perugia and making three arrests. Evidence of training in explosives and poisons, and instructions on flying a Boeing 747 were reportedly found. Police said the suspected cell had links to a group associated with Osama Bin Laden's al-Qaeda network. They seized the imam and two other men, all Moroccans, and have a warrant for a fourth man believed to be abroad. We have discovered and neutralised a real 'terror school' Carlo De Stefano anti-terrorism police head The three detainees refused to reply to questions when they were brought before a local magistrate. Twenty foreign students were also arrested in a related dawn raid and police said that those without residence permits would be deported. Perugia, a popular tourist destination because of its medieval and Renaissance palaces, is home to Italy's University for Foreigners, where hundreds of students from the Middle East are enrolled in university courses in Italian and other subjects. The discovery of the alleged terrorist training centre is a matter for serious concern to the Italian authorities, the BBC's David Willey reports from Rome. Italian Interior Minister Giuliano Amato said it was now necessary to pay close attention to mosques being used for activities unrelated to religion. Chemicals The suspects were running an "in-depth operation of instruction and training in the use of weapons and combat techniques suitable for terrorist acts", police said. Chemicals - including acids and cyanide - were found in the mosque's cellar and equipment for remote detonation of explosives was also discovered, they added. "The investigation has shown that... there was a continued training for terrorist activity," anti-terrorism police head Carlo De Stefano said. "We have discovered and neutralised a real 'terror school,' which was part of a widespread terrorism system made up of small cells that act on their own." According to the police, the Perugia cell had contacts with two members of the Moroccan Islamic Combat Group arrested around two years ago in Belgium. The group is believed to have ties to al-Qaeda and has been linked to the 2004 Madrid bombings and 2003 attacks in Casablanca. The detained men were named as imam Korchi el Moustapha, 41, Mohamed el Jari, 47, and Driss Safika, 46. 'Quiet community' Officers are reported to have spent two years investigating activities at the mosque. Between daily prayers, the small mosque at Ponte Felcino doubled as a training camp, a police statement said. The imam allegedly held courses, showed propaganda messages and made fiery sermons inciting a small group of disciples, some of them children, to join a Holy War. The imam at the central mosque in Perugia, which has a 10,000-strong Muslim community, said the Ponte Felcino group had not appeared dangerous. "Generally it's a quiet community," Abdel Qader told Italian news agency Ansa. "A few made some noise over the international situation but those were just words. We trust justice... and if any [of the suspects] has made a mistake, he will have to pay." Story from BBC NEWS: news.bbc.co.uk

To: one_less who wrote (244357)	10/8/2007 6:18:10 PM
From: Proud_Infidel	Respond to of 281500

I NEVER heard a priest say this....... Use children as troops, says cleric news.com.au ^ \| 1/18/07 \| Luke McIlveen news.com.au SYDNEY'S most influential radical Muslim cleric has been caught on film calling Jews pigs and urging children to die for Allah. Firebrand Sheik Feiz Mohammed, head of the Global Islamic Youth Centre in Liverpool, delivered the hateful rants on a collection of DVDs called the Death Series being sold in Australia and overseas. "Today many parents, they prevent their children from attending lessons. Why? They fear that they might create a place in the their hearts, the love, just a bit of the love, of sacrificing their lives for Allah," Sheik Feiz says in the video. "We want to have children and offer them as soldiers defending Islam. Teach them this: There is nothing more beloved to me than wanting to die as a mujahid (holy warrior). Put in their soft, tender hearts the zeal of jihad and a love of martyrdom." An Australian citizen born in Sydney who has spent the past year living in Lebanon, Sheik Feiz was exposed this week in a British documentary Undercover Mosque. Investigators found Sheik Feiz's DVDs being sold by children in the carpark of the Green Lane Mosque in Birmingham and other Islamic bookshops. The entire set can be bought online for $150. ... Snip He also accused Australian authorities of being over-zealous in their approach to clerics like him. "There are no sheiks preaching chaos there. No one is telling people to raise arms against the Australian community," he said. Sheik Feiz left for Lebanon just before the arrest of 23 men in Sydney and Melbourne in November 2005. (Rest at Link) (Excerpt) Read more at news.com.au ....

To: one_less who wrote (244357)	10/8/2007 6:19:05 PM
From: Proud_Infidel	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

An Islamic mufti in Copenhagen has sparked a political outcry after publicly declaring that women who refuse to wear headscarves are "asking for rape." cphpost.dk An Islamic mufti in Copenhagen, Shahid Mehdi, has sparked political outcry from the left-wing Unity List and right-wing Danish People's Party, after stating in a televised interview that women who do not wear headscarves are "asking for rape." Unity List equality spokesman Pernille Rosenkrantz-Theil has threatened to file suit for defamation against the mufti on behalf of herself and all the women of Denmark. The Danish People's Party has urged Justice Minister Lene Espersen and Integration Minister Bertel Haarder to stop the mufti's religious activities in Copenhagen. Shahid Mehdi made his remarks in the DR2 programme "Talk to Gode," and reiterated his stance in daily newspaper B.T. The Danish People's Party and Unity List agree that Mehdi's remarks could incite Muslim men to rape Danish women by insinuating that women who did not cover their hair were undeserving of basic respect. As a mufti, a jurist who interprets Islamic law, Shahi Mehdi is in a special position of authority as a Muslim scholar. Mehdi is currently affiliated with the Islamic Cultural Center in Copenhagen, but Pernille Rosenkrantz-Theil has urged officials to ban his teachings in Denmark due to his "reactionary view of women." "The very idea that this man is authorised to teach young people in the Koran is ludicrous. It's like letting (Danish Nazi leader) Johnny Hansen teach the history of World War II," said Rosenkrantz-Theil. The Socialist People's Party is urging Integration Minister Bertel Haarder to investigate whether Mehdi had violated Danish laws prohibiting foreign religious clerics from engaging in activity that poses a threat to public safety, health, decency and order.