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To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (25910)	10/11/2007 9:34:04 AM
From: sea_urchin	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 81130

Gus > if we stretch your own notion of "established, lawful borders" a bit, we may just end up in a world where whites have ruled that ALL NONWHITE PEOPLES are, one way or another, ILLEGAL I'll take your word that that's what the problem in Europe is about. But SA is different, one has only to speak to ANY SAn black in the street to hear how they resent the Zimbabweans and Mozambiquans, particularly. Beggars, mainly blacks, come to my door virtually every day and I hear the story from them. I'm not talking about whites now, in fact, many whites, and especially those near to the border with Zim and Moz make use of the "illegals" and employ them as virtual slaves on their farms and in other projects. I'm talking about those who come to the cities, especially Johannesburg, where they compete with local blacks for employment and social resources. Often they are better educated and smarter than locals, and like the Hispanics in the US, are prepared to work for low wages and outside the unions and government-enforced labour regulations. They usually carry illegal (forged) documents which are available for a pittance and this makes them extremely difficult to identify. No, this is not a white on black problem, as you persistently maintain, it's SAn blacks resenting the intrusion of their "black brothers" and taking the food out of their mouths. Of course, the crime and HIV/AIDS are other issues which are aggravated by the "illegals" because (a) many are unemployed and (b) many are infected. swradioafrica.com >>Emigration / Brain Drain / Refugee Crisis 1. 75% of Zimbabweans with a job are employed outside their country. 2. 25% of all Zimbabweans are in political or economic exile – the biggest proportional mass movement of a population in peacetime ever in modern history. 3. Brain drain: In 2005, a study by the Scientific and Industrial Research and Development Centre (SIRDC) reported that close to 500 000 of Zimbabwe's "professional cream" had left in recent years to work abroad. However, the study noted that the figure could be a "gross under-estimation" of the real number of Zimbabwean workers in the diaspora. 4. Between 3,5 and 4,5 million Zimbabweans exiles are estimated to be in South Africa where the majority struggle to survive and send money and food home. 5. In July it was estimated that between 3 000 and 4 000 Zimbabweans are crossing into South Africa every day. This represents at least 100 000 people a month, far more than official South African estimates of 20 000 per month. Forced migration is accelerating at present (October 2007). 6. The International Organisation for Migration, which opened an office to assist deported Zimbabwean refugees on the northern side of the border, says the organisation is handling on average 17 000 deportees every month. It is estimates that more than 86 000 illegal immigrants were forcibly repatriated between January and May this year alone. (It is important to note that the figure of 17 000 per month excludes those refugees who have managed to evade the South African authorities). 7. The Registrar-General’s Office announced recently that the cost of an ordinary Zimbabwean passport has been hiked 29 990% to Z$150 000 from Z$500. A passport processed within 24 hours costs Z$1 million. Health 1. Official statistics estimate that HIV/AIDS is present in 24.6% of the adult population (2001), putting the country in the top tier of all countries. That’s close to 1 in 4 people in Zimbabwe living with AIDS. 2. However, HIV infection rates may be as high as 40% given that the population was an estimated 12.5 million in 2000, but more than 5 million Zimbabweans have fled the country. 3. Tuberculosis is common in all developing countries. However, Zimbabwe has a prevalence of over 100 cases per 100 000 population, the highest WHO risk category. In 1980 TB had virtually been eradicated in Zimbabwe. 4. Life expectancy for women is just 34 years 5. Life expectancy for men is just 37 years 6. Zimbabwe now has the highest number of orphans per capita in the world – in excess of 1.6 million. 7. AIDS-related deaths orphan another 350 children every single day. 8. Two thirds of female-headed households care for orphans and vulnerable children. 9. The healthcare sector is in virtual collapse. Estimated that over 40,000 Zimbabwe Nurses are working outside the country. 10. Number of doctors per 10 000 people: 1 (World Health Organisation statistic 2006) 11. According to health ministry statistics in Zimbabwe, fewer than one in four posts for doctors is occupied 12. Four out of five of the district hospitals that serve rural areas have no doctors 13. Average deaths per week: 3 500. (This statistic may be much higher as deaths in rural areas are increasingly not reported and people either cannot afford the bus fare to take family members to hospital or see no point in doing so since hospitals and clinics have largely run out of drugs.) 14. British Medical Journal ranks Zimbabwe as worst in the world in terms of Health and placing Zimbabwe at bottom of WHO list of 191 nations.<< Sorry, Gus, this has nothing to do with whites -- if whites are involved it's because the blacks chased the whites out. This is a black problem caused by blacks on other blacks.