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To: tejek who wrote (354508)10/11/2007 2:48:24 PM
From: longnshort  Respond to of 1576207
 
We use gasoline powered ozone damaging assshole scrubers. It's the latest thing.



To: tejek who wrote (354508)10/11/2007 3:02:57 PM
From: steve harris  Respond to of 1576207
 
Nah,
use toilet paper. More than one square too.



To: tejek who wrote (354508)10/11/2007 6:47:19 PM
From: bentway  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1576207
 
Ore. Teacher Wants to Take Gun to School

By JEFF BARNARD – 3 days ago
ap.google.com
( Ted, do you REALLY want your drunken or drugged up young Harris's to be the only one armed in your classroom? I heard this lady say on NPR today that she could ABSOLUTELY plug one of her students if they pulled a gun in class! )

MEDFORD, Ore. (AP) — High school English teacher Shirley Katz insists she needs to take her pistol with her to work because she fears her ex-husband could show up and try to harm her. She's also worried about a Columbine-style attack.

But Katz's district has barred teachers from bringing guns to school, so she is challenging the ban as unlawful, since Oregon is among states that allow people with a permit to carry concealed weapons into public buildings.

"This is primarily about my Second Amendment right and Oregon law and the simple fact that I know it is my right to carry that gun," said Katz, 44, sitting at the kitchen table of her home outside this city of 74,000.

"I have that (concealed weapons) permit. I refuse to let my ex-husband bully me. And I am not going to let the school board bully me, either."

In Oregon, a sheriff can grant a concealed-weapons permit to anyone whose criminal record is clean and who completes a gun-safety course.

Thirty-eight states, along with the District of Columbia, prohibit people from taking guns to school, according to the National Council of State Legislatures. But it's unclear how many offer an exemption for people holding concealed-weapons permits, since the council does not track such exceptions.

Superintendent Phil Long insists employees and students are safer without guns on campus at South Medford High School, where Katz teaches. The district plans to make that argument when the case comes before a judge on Thursday.

Katz's request appears to be rare. School security consultant Ken Trump, president of National School Safety and Security Services in Cleveland, said he has never heard of a similar case while working in 45 states.

Katz won't say whether she has ever taken her 9 mm Glock pistol to school, but she practices with it regularly and has thought about what she would do if she had to confront a gunman. She would be sure students were locked in nearby offices out of the line of fire, and she would be ready with her pistol.

"Our safety plan at our school now is that if somebody threatening comes in, you try to avoid eye contact, and do whatever they say, and that is not acceptable anymore," she said. Shootings at Virginia Tech University and the one-room Amish school in Pennsylvania, "reinforced my belief we have to take action, we can't just acquiesce as we have been taught to do."

Katz never owned a gun until she and her then-husband, commercial photographer Gerry Katz, moved to Oregon from Atlanta eight years ago and bought 20 acres on a gravel road in the foothills of the Cascade Range.

"Being out in the country, we just felt we needed to have a gun here for personal safety," she said.

In 2004, Gerry Katz, who had a concealed weapons permit, was arrested for pulling a .38-caliber revolver after a confrontation that began in a parking lot with two men whose car almost hit his.

According to the police report, he did not point the weapon at anyone. The police seized it, and the charges were later dismissed. Gerry Katz said he never went back for his gun.

Shirley Katz said she bought her own gun in 2004 after Gerry Katz grabbed her by the throat and threatened to kill her — an allegation he denies.

He argues that her desire to take her gun to school is about reopening their divorce to get exclusive custody of their 6-year-old daughter.

"She's just scamming everybody," he said. "As soon as this thing started ... I called the principal at her high school and told her ... I am not coming to your school. I am not a threat to her. I have no desire to hurt her."

Oregon had a school shooting in 1998, when student Kip Kinkel killed his parents at home, then drove to school and opened fire in the cafeteria of Thurston High School in Springfield, killing two and wounding 25 others.

Since then, the Legislature has considered barring people with concealed weapons permits from carrying guns in schools, but the bills have failed, said Dori Brattain, general counsel to the Oregon School Boards Association.

Some South Medford students say they are uncomfortable with the idea of a teacher carrying a gun, especially since they cannot bring even scissors to school.

"I totally understand she wants to protect herself," said Lauren Forderer, 16, a junior. "But I don't agree she should bring her problems around 2,000 other people."

Even if she wins, Katz said, she may not bring the gun to school.

"The whole point of carrying concealed is no one should know you're carrying," she said. "So I feel like my carrying concealed on campus now sets me up as a target."



To: tejek who wrote (354508)10/11/2007 11:14:50 PM
From: bentway  Respond to of 1576207
 
More than 2,000 dead in US during arrests in three years: report

AFP
Published: Thursday October 11, 2007

More than 2,000 people died in the United States during arrests between 2003 and 2005, according to data published by the Department of Justice for the first time Thursday.

As many as 54 percent were killed by police, 12 percent died because of a drug or alcohol overdose, 11 percent committed suicide, seven percent succumbed to accidents and five percent died due to illnesses or natural causes, according to statistics from 47 US states, and the US federal capital city, released in accordance with a 2000 law.

By comparison, over the same period of time, security agencies carried out more than 41 million arrests, a number that does not include detentions as a result of traffic violations.

At the same time, more than 174,000 police officers were assaulted, 380 were killed, 41 percent of them in the course of a crime, the statistics released by the Federal Bureau of Investigation showed.

Among the 1,095 suspects killed by police and other security forces, 80 percent were armed, 62 percent threatened police officers, 36 percent made an attempt to escape, and 18 percent were under the influence of alcohol or drugs.

About 45 percent of those killed were white, 30 percent were black and 20 percent were Hispanics.

According to the statistics, almost all succumbed to gunfire, while 17 were killed by "Taser" stunguns.

Among the 234 suspects who committed suicide, more than half were detained for violent crimes. Two-thirds killed themselves with a firearm in the course of their arrest. Meanwhile, others hanged themselves in detention cells.