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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (223777)	10/12/2007 2:19:58 PM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793552

high schools no longer provide a high school education. Many employers would be happy to settle for a 1965 version of a 8th grade education. My Father got a 4th grade education in Montreal in 1914, and did very well in life. Good at math, Huge reader.

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (223777)	10/12/2007 5:47:36 PM
From: John Carragher	Respond to of 793552

the real reason, imo. is bracket creep. the same first line management jobs all got upgrades to higher pay scales and then came analysts and clerical. and then came more and more going to college, college grads who played a lot and perhaps never took any serious courses only qualified for clerk jobs. I remember taking phone orders and entering the product codes from memory and prices from memory so someone could produce a type shipped document. the machine would take the price times the quantity and extend out total line and summarize. That was the first computer i remember seeing. It started to replace the , Comptometer. about 25 years later after we had dumbed the jobs to order clerks,, or customer service reps,, then price clerks, vs both doing the same thing. i went to combine jobs again so a person could enter their own orders on line vs hand off to data entry, i wanted them to learn pricing and be able to quote prices. Horrors.. most managers thought that would be too complicated for those now level entry high achievers from various colleges to comprehend. I broke down the resistance over time and those in the jobs found much more satisfaction vs doing repetitive non challenging work. If you want high school graduates to do these jobs, then give them some type of testing during interviews. of course i expect today aclu or eeo would come after you if the test were not available in ten languages ,