To: denizen48 who wrote (16683 ) 10/13/2007 9:40:42 AM From: sea_urchin Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 22250 Harry > We're up against the best chess players in the world. Not the way I see it. IMO, they are simply poker players and not very good ones either. They get dealt lousy hand after lousy hand but win because, having unlimited funds, they raise the betting and cause the opponents to throw in their hands, just as you suggest doing. Russians are good chess players, watch how they deal with the US over the European missile issue. > Nothing is ever revealed accidentally nor passed over On the contrary, their intentions are obvious -- theft and more theft. It's what the British did in the Persian Gulf and Iran after WW1 and the US took over when British power and influence waned. This time their game is to break up Iraq into independent states and re-establish Kurdistan as a viable entity. Then to recreate the Kirkuk-Haifa oil pipeline in order to make Israel into, effectively, an oil-rich nation. They will attempt to isolate Iran and deal with it later. > It would be best to give them what they want & live with what's left. Their demands are unlimited. They are the wealthiest people in the world but that isn't enough -- it's power and control they want. Which means they want everyones' right to liberty and self-determination. > The Palestineans gotta go, that's becoming obvious. That was obvious since the 1930s when Zionists first started moving into what was then Palestine. But, in the main, the Palestinians refused to go and that's the problem. Indeed, the Israel/Palestinian issue could be settled quite easily but Israel doesn't want to do that. In fact, there are only 400,000 settlers in Palestinian land and East Jerusalem. That's one new town in Israel. Instead, Israel prefers to incite the Palestinians/Muslims and when the Palestinians/Muslims respond it's called terrorism. And that's the pretext for the US War on Terrorism which is another word for US/Israeli hegemony/empire in the Mid East. > But should the price we have to pay be our democratic way of life and the truth in public life? That's the bitch of it that I see. If it wasn't this it would have been something else. Vietnam was a good example of a war about nothing. Frankly, the American people are stuffed -- what was once a democratic republic with a wonderful constitution is now an oligarchy, corporatocracy and virtual, fascist dictatorship which can print all the money it needs to survive.en.wikipedia.org