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Politics : Israel to U.S. : Now Deal with Syria and Iran -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: denizen48 who wrote (16685)10/13/2007 2:39:40 PM
From: sea_urchin  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 22250
 
Harry > they're the world's best.

Even if what you say is true, surely one is compelled to do whatever one can? Should one not stand up for one's rights, such as they are? Should one not speak out against criminal behavior? The US has one of the best constitutions in the world: should Americans simply stand by while their constitution is being trampled on and violated?

> The best is even directly involved in Russian politics, Karpov.

I accept that but he didn't get very far, in fact, he has already been identified as a neocon pawn.

> When Kennedy got offed, I was 16. I got to watch the steady deterioration of the truth in our news and our democracy. Today, the propoganda weeds have taken over every part of the garden.

What you say is absolutely true. The assassination of JFK definitely marked the commencement of the rot and this gives a clue as to who was behind the assassination. Indeed, a similar situation to 9/11.

> Nam made even less sense than Iraq, but if one sees it both as occupying the nation's attention & the necessary whip for its rebelling youth, then the pieces fit.

Sure. Also the necessary impetus for the growth of the military-industrial-complex and the Pentagon which Eisenhower warned about in the 1950s.

>We were slowly turned into Consumers, the Pentagon got its war & Israel its free hand in the ME & the atomic bomb.

All true, but to what end?

> So let Israel have what it wants, peacefully.

The status quo between Israel and the Palestinians can continue indefinitely because no one can or will stop it. But with the War on Terrorism the game has changed and is now being played out on a far bigger field, and not necessarily to the US and Israel's advantage. Indeed, there are many commentators who consider that Iran has been the biggest beneficiary of the US invasion of Iraq. And there is no doubt that the US has had a very bad time of things. Furthermore, Syria and Hezbollah are stronger than ever and are ready to repulse any Israeli aggression. They also have many missiles which can inflict quite severe damage to Israel in the event of any outbreak of hostilities. So, to use your chess analogy, what has happened is that in response to the advances of the white pieces, black now finds itself tactically very well placed. So much so, white is now reluctant to make any aggressive move and a stalemate looms.

> We'll all get to consume longer.

That all depends on the strength of the USD vis a vis the renminbi. Indeed, if the dollar gets too weak and, in response, interest rates too high then the US consumers can find themselves in considerable trouble surviving, let alone "consuming". That is why I believe the Fed will do whatever it can to prevent deflation because if many Americans lose their homes or are otherwise financially embarrassed the possibility for social unrest and even anarchy becomes that much greater.



To: denizen48 who wrote (16685)10/14/2007 4:54:38 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 22250
 
Re: Still, a few things can be linked to make sense out of the [JFK] assassination & Viet Nam.

After reading Pr R. Woods' exhaustive bio on LBJ, I've come to think that the main reason behind the assassination of JFK was the latter's civil rights agenda... 1960s America looked very much like apartheid South Africa. White Southerners deeply resented the intrusion of a Northeastern, Catholic dynasty (Joseph, Jack, and Bobby) into their century-old way of life. Hence Pr Woods rightly talks of a "Second Reconstruction" from 1964 on.... The desegregation of bus transport, schools, universities, followed by the Voting Rights Act, Fair Housing, Medicare (which was, at the same time, a social issue AND a civil rights one, since it called for desegregating healthcare facilities) --taken all together, it was just too much for Southern states to cope with.... Yet, JFK would have none of LBJ's misgivings. With his 1964 re-election in sight, JFK told LBJ defiantly: "if I have to win over two states ONLY, it's gonna be Massachusetts (his native state) and TEXAS!"

Vietnam and Israel's secret endeavor to turn Dimona into a military program merely compounded JFK's problems with the US rightwing establishment....

Gus



To: denizen48 who wrote (16685)10/19/2007 2:42:28 PM
From: bentway  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 22250
 
Kasparov is a better chessplayer than Karpov, and only half Jewish. Neither is current world champion - a Hindu is, Anand. The Jews have had world champions, and are excellent chessplayers.

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