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To: tejek who wrote (355014)	10/16/2007 1:33:11 PM
From: d[-_-]b	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1582318

They are not as rare as you would like to think and they will become less rare as more police forces utilize them. Frankly, I think the problem stems as much from the users as the taser themselves. In the article I posted, they said the guy got hit twice with the taser. How much you want to bet it was more than that? Of course you have links to prove your numbers - which I've already seen and you're wrong as usual - running on your feelings and the number or frequency of news events which publish every incident giving it the appearance of common. The guy hit twice from eye witness accounts, but always the suspicious mind regarding police from any country you doubt the witnesses. It also said he died shortly after being handcuffed - perhaps those are what killed him - hmmmm, struggling uselessly against handcuffs seems to be a common theme in these incidents.

To: tejek who wrote (355014)	10/16/2007 1:45:41 PM
From: combjelly	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1582318

"Frankly, I think the problem stems as much from the users as the taser themselves." Actually, I think the users are more to blame. Why did they taser him twice? In the cases where there have been video of a controversial arrest, the law enforcement people usually taser several times, often in very short order. Usually before the target can regain control of their muscles. So this is likely a training issue. There are plenty of videos of tasers being used on Youtube. In most cases, they taser the guy once, he goes down, and they take control of him. Which is totally different from the cases where they use it like a nightstick. Whack him, if he isn't limp, then whack him some more. Which isn't how the device is supposed to be used. I am reminded of a case in Houston some years back. It was before Lee Brown was police chief and was one of the cases that led to his hiring. An officer noticed some activity in a warehouse, after hours. He entered the warehouse and a guy with a screwdriver came at him. He drew his weapon and shot the guy, who kept coming and feel to the floor at the officer's feet. Who then continued shooting, reloading several times. If I recall correctly, there were in excess of 20 rounds expended, most of which hit the pile of hamburger at his feet. In other words, the cop panicked. Which is probably not what you want.