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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (246593)	10/25/2007 10:27:11 AM
From: one_less	Respond to of 281500

I'll mark that commentary with a 'maybe'.

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (246593)	10/25/2007 10:32:00 AM
From: michael97123	Respond to of 281500

Problem is that the americans and the israelis cant do it alone. IF the rest of the world doesnt at least prepare themselves to fight, west will lose. Russians and Chinese play on the world stage without a moral compass and the euros are demographically old and tired and wedded to the welfare state. Sarkozy hopefully will become a transformational euro movement but we have to be patient and not waste our assets too early. Need to slow down iran with coop of russians but not rush in. West needs to gather itself and become credible before iran/pakistan/al queada go ballistic.

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (246593)	10/25/2007 2:11:07 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

"I think they are secretly hoping that the Israelis and the Americans will do the heavy lifting and make their problem go away. Iran's ruling radical regime knows the culture and people of Iran will not condone further global isolation. With respect to this circumstance it can and is continuing to draw attention to its nuclear head fake while waging a real proxy war against the West in Southern Iraq. It supports the al-Qud special forces of the Revolutionary Guard who are in Iraq, militia trained by Hesbollah, and fierce anti-American military militia movements like the Mahdi Army, last estimated at 60K+ and expected to grow exponentially over time. At the rate of current growth, it will soon eclipse the Iraqi military. Tehran also uses its influence quite effectively to promote anti-western leadership into Iraqi political office. They have realized that by cooperating with the US now to quell insurgencies in Southern Iraq while continuing to destablize the National govt of Iraq, and by biding their time, they will achieve a long term goal of removing Western influence from Iraq and will be replacing that with their brand of extremism from Iran through Iraq-Syria-Lebanon. So, as terrifying as the idea of a future nuke getting launched on Europe seems (an idea I find to be highly unrealistic), the development of radical reality on the ground is quietly awesome.