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To: Proud_Infidel who wrote (247021)	10/30/2007 6:14:11 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

"You go on to call ME a bigot!" Absolutely You are a bigot, you fit every definition and descriptor that qualifies you as a bigot. I call you a bigot because it is the truth, I know it makes you uncomfortable to be confronted with the truth, and I think it is good for you to be uncomfortable with that truth. If you were an honorable man you would face the truth, deal with it, grow and become a better man. So, far you have shown me only what a frightened coward will do when faced with the truth, you ban it and fly into histerics. "No, you were banned for name calling, something specificially outlined in the thread header. You added that to the header after you got caught banning me and lying about your reasons but the addition is another blatant fraud. It's your lame excuse and an unqualified one. Your thread is ripe with the most vile forms of disgusting name calling and every from of bigotry. That's what you guys in the death cult sit around doing. You could rename your thread "What disgusting things can we think of to call people who are not members of our death cult" and it would be totally fitting. You don't ban people for namecalling, you ban me for telling the truth, but you appease yourself by calling the uncomfortable truth name calling. Perfectly in line with your cowardly manner of operation... tsk "Unbelievable." That's been your problem from the start. It is not only easy for any rational and decent person to believe, it is overwhelmingly obvious and substantially true. The truth is believable for truthful persons. Best regards, gem

To: Proud_Infidel who wrote (247021)	10/30/2007 7:55:03 PM
From: one_less	Respond to of 281500

"Amazingly, instead of commenting on this: (Reforming Islam) I doubt you could conduct yourself with honor in a discussion of topics like this and I have no interest in witnessing more of your bigoted bird walks. At the foundation the topic is contaminated with a contradiction in usage. Your topic is flawed or a fraud in its foundation. For the topic to be ‘Reform Islam,’ you have to define your terms carefully and you are guaranteed to have terminology contagion and back draft, so it would require rigorous self discipline to accomplish anything useful. In fact, among all the posters I can think of, it is you who I suspect would be the most likely to muck that up. For example you can say that you want to reform Islam because it is a group of people that could find better more productive ways of getting along, or you can say it is a religion that needs updating, or you can say it is a culture that needs to be refreshed, or you can say it is a lifestyle that has reached obsolescence, or a group of countries that would benefit from diversity of ideas, a civilization past its prime, a system with bugs, or you can say it is the word of an All Powerful God. No matter what direction you choose to take in such a discussion you will be directed back to a dilemma. The dilemma is simply how do you, a limited person change something that is All Powerful and Infinitely Perfect? But its not a true dilemma, because you weren’t sincere in the first place or you would have qualified your course in the beginning. You know you are not qualified or powerful enough to change something that is All Powerful and Infinitely Perfect. You don’t even believe that AP and IP concept, you have another agenda, one you think is hidden. What is it brian? Maybe if you’d come clean once in a while you and I would have something to discuss. I wouldn’t mind having the reform discussion with rationally objective persons who are decent and honorable in their intent to change and renew for the betterment of humanity. Sorry, but you don’t qualify brian. Best regards, gem