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Politics : A US National Health Care System? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Road Walker who wrote (2564)11/1/2007 11:03:16 AM
From: Lane3  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 42652
 
"Scarce" implies something that is very difficult to obtain even with a lot of effort.

You are talking nonsense.


He's using an economic term of art, not common parlance.



To: Road Walker who wrote (2564)11/1/2007 12:49:42 PM
From: TimF  Respond to of 42652
 
Those factors increase the cost in any system.

So why are you going on and on... nothing to do with the discussion.


They are factors which cause our health care to be more expensive than it used to be. They are important factors when considering the future of health care spending. And to an extent they are factors that make our health care more expensive than health care in most other countries.

Re: waiting. Waiting years for treatment is generally an outlier, but its real. Waiting months isn't an outlier, for a number of procedures in a number of countries its the norm.

So you think our system, where you only get paid treatment if you are rich or have a job with health insurance, is more fair than system where everyone gets health care?

People who aren't rich and don't have insurance through their job still get treatment.

Also "everyone gets health care" is an exaggeration at best when considering the more socialized systems. With people working on their own teeth because they can't find any available dentists, and with other people putting their names in lotteries to get a slot at the local doctors, at most only emergency care is available for all, and emergency care is also available here.

As for scarce - Once it has a specific meaning in economics. That's the meaning I'm using. I recommend following the Wikipedia link, or reading any Econ 101 textbook.

Or just read these quotes -

"In economics, scarcity is defined as the condition of human wants and needs exceeding production possibilities. In other words, society does not have sufficient productive resources to fulfill those wants and needs. Alternatively, scarcity implies that not all of society's goals can be fully attained at the same time, so that trade-offs are made of one good against others."

"Goods (including services) that are scarce are called economic goods (or simply 'goods' if their scarcity is presumed). Other goods are called free goods if they are desired but in such abundance that they are not scarce, such as air and seawater. "

"Scarce good", can be replace with "economic good" the meanings are the same.