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To: Steve Lokness who wrote (227095)11/6/2007 5:00:27 PM
From: Brumar89  Respond to of 793914
 
Don't you remember how westernized Iraq was before we took over their country? We took that good will and smashed it.

For the 12 years prior to our invasion of Iraq, that country and the whole Arab world was being fed propaganda (from both the Iraqi govt, Al Jazeera, and western leftists - including UNICEF and Lancet) that said US enforcement of UN sanctions was killing 50,000 or so Iraqi babies every year. These 'horrible crimes' were cited prominently in OBL's 1998 fatwa calling on Muslims around the world to kill Americans. Don't you remember seeing the funerals of dead babies on TV - the crowds in the streets bearing tiny coffins aloft?

So where do you get the idea there was some kind of good will that was smashed? We were considered baby-killers.

observer.guardian.co.uk
"Small coffins, decorated with grisly photographs of dead babies and their ages – 'three days', 'four days', written usefully for the English-speaking media – are paraded through the streets of Baghdad on the roofs of taxis, the procession led by a throng of official mourners."

whitehouse.gov
Iraq claims that 1.7 million children, including 700,000 under the age of five, out of a total national population of 22 million people, have died because of sanctions.

casi.org.uk
the substantial reduction in child mortality throughout Iraq during the 1980s had continued through the 1990s, there would have been half a million fewer deaths of children under-five in the country as a whole during the eight year period 1991 to 1998" Unicef, 12 August 1999.

"We are in the process of destroying an entire society. It is as simple and terrifying as that. It is illegal and immoral." Denis Halliday, after resigning as first UN Assistant Secretary General and Humanitarian Coordinator in Iraq, The Independent, 15 October 1998


thenation.com;
The controversy dates from 1995, when researchers with a Food and Agricultural Organization (FAO) study in Iraq wrote to The Lancet, the journal of the British Medical Society, asserting that sanctions were responsible for the deaths of 567,000 Iraqi children. The New York Times picked up the story and declared "Iraq Sanctions Kill Children." CBS followed up with a segment on 60 Minutes that repeated the numbers and depicted sanctions as a murderous assault on children. This was the program in which UN ambassador (and later Secretary of State) Madeleine Albright, when asked about these numbers, coldly stated, "The price is worth it."
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Sanctions opponents place the blame for Iraq's increased deaths squarely on the United States and the continuing UN sanctions.

www.fair.org/index.php?page=1084 - 30k - Cached - Similar pages
We have heard that a half million children have died. I mean, that's more children than died in Hiroshima. ...


www.commondreams.org/headlines/072100-03.htm
A senior U.N. official said Friday about half a million children under the age of 5 have died in Iraq since the imposition of U.N. sanctions 10 ...



To: Steve Lokness who wrote (227095)11/6/2007 6:00:44 PM
From: MichaelSkyy  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 793914
 
Any other conclusion is absolutely nuts and complete hubris. Hate to be the bearer of bad news to you Alan.

If you are worried about terrorist - then you darn well better make an attempt to understand why they hate us so. Ron Paul has this one right. BY continuing to create terrorist - which is what our policy is now doing - it becomes an ever increasing problem.

Does being a A$$hole come naturally to you, or did it require special training??



To: Steve Lokness who wrote (227095)11/6/2007 7:00:03 PM
From: DMaA  Respond to of 793914
 
We sided with them in Bosnia and in a dozen other wars in the past 20 years. We've gifted them hundreds of billions of dollars. No wonder they hate us.

you darn well better make an attempt to understand why they hate us so.