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To: Bearcatbob who wrote (227408)	11/8/2007 8:45:59 PM
From: unclewest	Respond to of 793841

Uncle - as much as I hate to admit it - we won because of the French. We are still in agreement. All successful insurgencies, I can think of, have had and needed an outside benefactor. One exception may have been Spain vs Napoleon and I'd have to research that. Recall the Spanish insurgency and huge French battlefield losses were the root cause of Napoleon's eventual demise. The presumptions made by Napoleon in Spain and Rumsfeld in Iraq are remarkably similar because they are similarly wrong. Neither understood unconventional warfare. Rumsfeld's departure did not fix that for us. We still suffer the same problem today. Many military staff studies have been written about an insurgency's critical need for that one factor. That is why SFers always want to launch huge attacks against that key support. Eliminate the support factor and the insurgents become easy to clean out. Unfortunately in the current conflict there are 150 million supporting the insurgents.

To: Bearcatbob who wrote (227408)	11/9/2007 5:21:49 AM
From: Snowshoe	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793841

>>as much as I hate to admit it - we won because of the French<< True, but the French were prompted to enter the war by our triumph at Saratoga in September/October 1777. Our victory at Saratoga was possible because the British were forced to split their command structure into two separate commands, after we captured Fort Ticonderoga and severed the British land link to Canada in 1775. Fort Ticonderoga was captured on May 10, 1775, in an irregular op by Ethan Allen and the Green Mountain Boys.