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Politics : A US National Health Care System? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Lane3 who wrote (2787)11/9/2007 8:35:43 AM
From: Mary Cluney  Respond to of 42652
 
<<<For example, the first sentence, the per capita cost of healthcare, followed by the second, life expectancy, suggests to the careless thinker a connection between the two--that we're not getting a good return on our investment. >>>

That is absolutely correct. Everything else is subjective.



To: Lane3 who wrote (2787)11/9/2007 9:04:45 AM
From: Road Walker  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 42652
 
Folks take statements like that and perceive an automatic "ergo" in them. You get the same kind of mindless reactions in the environmental and terrorism arenas. For example: Islamic terrorists destroyed the WTC ERGO we must invade Iraq. Mindless. Krugman is either dumber than someone in his position should be, has little respect for the intellect of his readers, and or will say anything to advocate his cause.

In general I agree with you... especially the terrorist part (on which I could write volumes). And some that are against national health care probably overstate the correlation between longevity and universal care.

But to say there is absolutely no correlation is also false. Look at some African countries where health care is rare or non-existent. You would have to agree that that has an influence on longevity.

By the same token, not having universal health care in this country leads to a reduction in health care for a significant portion of the population. The difference certainly isn't as pronounced as Africa, and it isn't the only factor at work, but certainly it must have some effect. Otherwise why bother with regular health care at all? Health care doesn't equal longevity but health care has an influence on longevity. So you can't completely dismiss the statistics.

John



To: Lane3 who wrote (2787)11/9/2007 12:28:43 PM
From: Peter Dierks  Respond to of 42652
 
"objective logic shortfall"

That summarizes the liberal argument for socialized medicine quite succinctly.