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To: Sam who wrote (247989)11/10/2007 9:23:47 PM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Have you listened to anything that the residents of Ramadi or Fallujah have had to say, about who ran their towns or what their life has been like for the last three years? You are in a liberal bubble, along with Kos and the lefty blogosphere. The facts you liked in Iraq were the facts of late 2006, when the US was losing, so you don't want to hear any new facts.

If the well-armed and well-financed tribes of Anbar ever decide that they have had enough of us and we refuse to leave, we'll see soon enough who was in "control" of the area.



They aren't particularly well armed or financed, either by Al Qaeda or us. That's why they turned to the Americans for help in getting rid of Al Qaeda. Al Qaeda had the money and the suicide bombers. Of course, they have the men, they're local, they can make life difficult for anyone they don't want to be there, though difficult is not the same thing as getting rid of easily.

They didn't get rid of the Americans, did they? If they are so all-fired powerful, how come they never got rid of the Americans? If the Americans were too strong for them to get rid of even with Al Qaeda's help, then maybe Al Qaeda was also too strong for them to get rid of by themselves, so they needed American help.

Turn your stupid logic on its head, see how well it works.